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9/12/2017 7:56 am  #1


Birtherism 2017 Edition

Don't get me wrong, if there is widespread voter fraud, we need to find it. But, that's not what this commission is about.
It's about voter suppression, and the idea that the only way that we "real" Americans can lose an election is if there is something illegal going on by those people.



 Trump panel heads to New Hampshire in search for proof of voter fraud

(CNN)
In November, President Donald Trump claimed "serious voter fraud" in New Hampshire. In January, he said 3 to 5 million undocumented immigrants voted illegally -- allowing Hillary Clinton to win the national popular vote. In February, he said thousands of people had been bused to New Hampshire from Massachusetts to vote illegally in the swing state.None of those claims have been proven. But on Tuesday, Trump's "Election Integrity" commission is in New Hampshire to look for evidence.
 The commission, led by Kansas secretary of state Kris Kobach, has scheduled a series of presentations from long-time advocates for stricter controls on voting. Among them: The Heritage Foundation's Hans von Spakovsky, who plans to highlight egregious examples of voter fraud; and the Crime Prevention Research Center's John Lott Jr., who will advocate background checks for voters.  



The agenda is light on elections experts who will push back or question the testimony. So Democrats on the panel are preparing rebuttals themselves."It could get a little feisty," said Matthew Dunlap, Maine's secretary of state and a Democratic member of the commission.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/12/politics/new-hampshire-trump-voting-election-commission/index.html

Last edited by Goose (9/12/2017 7:57 am)


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

9/12/2017 9:08 am  #2


Re: Birtherism 2017 Edition

I ran a 'fact check' on this.  Kobach's suspicions are completely unsupported.

http://www.factcheck.org/2017/09/kobachs-bogus-proof-voter-fraud/

 

9/12/2017 2:02 pm  #3


Re: Birtherism 2017 Edition

If we are going to go down this blind alley, I suggest the first group of people that should be subject to background checks, strict controls on their identity documents, and fraud are political elected officials and candidates running for office.

In particular, the immediate investigation of the members of this "commission" and the people that proposed the formation of the "commission" and the people that were instrumental in selecting the members of this "commission".

Last edited by Rongone (9/12/2017 2:06 pm)

 

9/13/2017 2:53 pm  #4


Re: Birtherism 2017 Edition

It's just the latest shiny object for the fringe.


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
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9/13/2017 3:44 pm  #5


Re: Birtherism 2017 Edition

Taxpayer money would be more well spend on researching voter supression. 


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

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