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Children Are Among the Dead After a U.S.-Backed Raid in Somalia
Children Are Among the Dead After a U.S.-Backed Raid in Somalia
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS AUG. 25, 2017
MOGADISHU, Somalia — Ten civilians, including three children, were killed in a raid by foreign and Somali forces on a farm in southern Somalia, a deputy governor said Friday. The United States military confirmed that it had supported a counterterrorism operation in the area, and said it would look into the allegations.
The deaths raise questions about growing American military involvement in Somalia after President Trump approved expanded operations, often in support of Somali forces, against the Shabab, an extremist group linked to Al Qaeda.
The farmers were killed “one by one” after soldiers stormed into the village, Barire, early Friday, the deputy governor of the Lower Shabelle region, Ali Nur Mohamed, told reporters in the capital, Mogadishu.
Somalia’s Information Ministry at first said that the raid had killed eight Shabab fighters and that the extremists had begun shooting at Somali forces, adding that “no civilians were harmed or killed.” A corrected statement said that “it appears that there were different security operations” in the area.
Three children ages 8 to 10 and a woman were among the dead, the deputy governor said. Their bodies were laid out in a grassy courtyard, wrapped in blankets. Bodies of civilians, especially those killed in misdirected attacks, are often taken from remote areas to Mogadishu to draw media attention.
“These local farmers were attacked by foreign troops while looking after their crops,” Mr. Mohamed told reporters. “The troops could have arrested them, because they were unarmed, but instead shot them one by one mercilessly.”
The United States Africa Command confirmed that American forces had supported the Somalia National Army while it conducted an operation in the area, but it offered no details.
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"She goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy."
John Quincy Adams, 1821.
That was another time.
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It is a tough call for any POTUS as when and where to lend assistance. As long as all we are doing is lending assistance, in most situations I can get behind that. When we start taking the lead rather than letting the indigenous population carrying the heave load, that is when we get entangled in never ending engagements.
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The Somalia National Army conducted an operation against the Shabab not the US but hey if you find any blame against the US then you can blame Trump!
The Shabab, the deadliest Islamist extremist group in Africa.
in recent weeks said strikes had killed the Shabab leaders responsible for planning and executing deadly attacks in Mogadishu, where hotels and military checkpoints are often attacked with bombs.
I don't think there are any threads that have not been polluted with this anti-Trump garbage. 
“We hold these truths to be self-evident,” former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”
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Goose wrote:
"She goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy."
John Quincy Adams, 1821.
That was another time.
They go abroad in search of terrorists who want to kill any American! And when they find they kill them dead!
God Bless our military!
“We hold these truths to be self-evident,” former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”
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Somalia really has no effective governing body ............. sort of a libertarian dream, I guess. I suppose the question that arises has to do with the extent of 'world policing' we want to do. I tend to agree with Tennyson on this.
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"She goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy."
John Quincy Adams, 1821.
That was another time.They go abroad in search of terrorists who want to kill any American! And when they find they kill them dead!
God Bless our military!
I don't think that we should be callous towards the killing of children..
And I do not believe that killing civilians is a particularly effective way to combat terrorism. It just enrages the local populace and recruits more terrorists
And that is not just my opinion. It is the opinion of our own military which you have just bestowed god's blessing. on.
You should do a little reading about it.
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Killing children and innocent people is usually used as a recruiting tool for terrorist organizations. Am I right about this?
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The Somalia National Army conducted an operation against the Shabab not the US
Yes, thank you.
The article that I read - and posted here for you - said exactly that. There was no deception.
"Ten civilians, including three children, were killed in a raid by foreign and Somali forces on a farm in southern Somalia, a deputy governor said Friday.
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The farmers were killed “one by one” after soldiers stormed into the village, Barire, early Friday, the deputy governor of the Lower Shabelle region, Ali Nur Mohamed, told reporters in the capital, Mogadishu.
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Three children ages 8 to 10 and a woman were among the dead
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The United States Africa Command confirmed that American forces had supported the Somalia National Army while it conducted an operation in the area, but it offered no details."
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I don't think there are any threads that have not been polluted with this anti-Trump garbage.
"It is a tough call for any POTUS as when and where to lend assistance. As long as all we are doing is lending assistance, in most situations I can get behind that. When we start taking the lead rather than letting the indigenous population carrying the heave load, that is when we get entangled in never ending engagements. "
Tennyson
I dunno, common. The posts on this site seem very thoughtful, and reasonable to me.
I, for one, think that this discussion board is head and shoulders above most of what I see on the internet.
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