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5/03/2015 9:15 am  #1


Baltimore Sergeant Warns Superiors:

It seems that the job of a Baltimore police officer went from very difficult to next to impossible!


Baltimore Sergeant Warns Superiors: “It Is About To Get Ugly”

As residents celebrate the charges against six Baltimore police officers, officers on the ground report heightened tensions.

The chief of patrol sent out a message ordering officers to double up on patrols.

BALTIMORE – A Baltimore police sergeant informed his Eastern District superiors Friday afternoon that officers “are now being challenged on the street.” The sergeant sent the letter following the announcement that State’s Attorney Marilyn Mosby was indicting six officers on felony charges associated with the death of Freddie Gray, the 25-year-old who suffered a fatal spinal injury while in Baltimore police custody on April 12.The letter, provided to BuzzFeed News from an anonymous source, warned of heightening tensions between police and residents on a day when many locals have taken to the streets to celebrate.Sgt. Lennardo Bailey told the “Eastern Command Staff” [sic’d]:“I have been to five calls today and three of those five calls for service; I have been challenged to a fight. Some of them I blew off but one of them almost got ugly. I don’t want anybody to say that I did not tell them what is going on. This is no intel this is really what’s going on the street. This is my formal notification. It is about to get ugly.”

Last edited by Common Sense (5/03/2015 9:18 am)


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

5/03/2015 9:30 am  #2


Re: Baltimore Sergeant Warns Superiors:

Why do you think Baltimore police officers find themselves in this situation, Common?

 

5/03/2015 10:16 am  #3


Re: Baltimore Sergeant Warns Superiors:

Rongone wrote:

Why do you think Baltimore police officers find themselves in this situation, Common?

Do you think such challenges and disdain and disrespect for cops is appropriate?

Why is treating all cops like this justified, when treating all Blacks like criminals isn't?

Just askin how one generalized discriminination is OK and the other considered bad . . .

 

 

5/03/2015 10:19 am  #4


Re: Baltimore Sergeant Warns Superiors:

Rongone wrote:

Why do you think Baltimore police officers find themselves in this situation, Common?

There is a giant list of reasons.
My top two would be:
A major break down of the family (No Dad’s involved)
A major fail in the education system.
 
 
 
The police are excepted to make split second decisions in exceptionally
difficult situations. They do make mistakes and at times they break the laws.
Leadership in Maryland (State, local and the city have failed at many levels.)
If  laws have been broken then their needs to be a consequence for that.
When there is just a blatant disregard for law enforcement officers it is going to
cause anarchy in the streets!  And I think it’s getting close to that in certain area of
Baltimore.
 
 
 

 


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
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5/03/2015 10:35 am  #5


Re: Baltimore Sergeant Warns Superiors:

Common Sense wrote:

When there is just a blatant disregard for law enforcement officers it is going to cause anarchy in the streets!

And the problem that is supposed to be remedied with the protests and animosity toward the police will only make the problem tougher to solve.  This generalized anti-cop sentiment being nurtured and cultivated is going to push civic-minded urban Black youth away from a law-enforcement career. 

I live in Philly and the difficulty with recruitment of minorities is becoming a real problem that the national narrative is only going to exacerbate:

 

 

5/03/2015 10:54 am  #6


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My observation on the Baltimore riot is it’s not so much a racial issue but a police officer/law enforcement vs citizen issue?
 
The officers charged are 3 white males and 2 black males and 1 black female. The most serious charge,  2nd degree murder charge is against a black male officer.
 
The Baltimore city police is about 44% black. The mayor is black, black city council members, police chief is black and States attorney is black. Is this a racial issue or a law enforcement vs citizen issue?
 


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
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5/03/2015 10:58 am  #7


Re: Baltimore Sergeant Warns Superiors:

I believe both sides bear some of the responsibility in this case.

Generally speaking, there has been a decline in our societal structure particularly in urban areas. Lack of economic stability, lack of job opportunity, poor emphasis on improving education, etc. have led to stress and conflict. Urban youth have been disenfranchised and this has led to unlawful civil action. This does not excuse police and other civil authorities from exercising unwarranted, discretionary force.

I don't know how you fix the cultural lack of family situations in our society, but we can certainly poll our resources to figure out how to improve economic opportunity, education, and living conditions for all citizens. I'm not talking about unmitigated access to welfare, nor more militarization of police forces. As a society we need to perform root cause analysis and put forth reasonable programs to help resolve some problems. Otherwise, our society will fail. It will succumb to outright urban warfare. You can only build so many jails and burn & loot your own neighborhoods so many times before abject hopelessness overcomes reasonable attempts at solving problems.

 

5/03/2015 1:34 pm  #8


Re: Baltimore Sergeant Warns Superiors:

Common Sense wrote:

Rongone wrote:

Why do you think Baltimore police officers find themselves in this situation, Common?

There is a giant list of reasons.
My top two would be:
A major break down of the family (No Dad’s involved)
A major fail in the education system.
 
 
 
The police are excepted to make split second decisions in exceptionally
difficult situations. They do make mistakes and at times they break the laws.
Leadership in Maryland (State, local and the city have failed at many levels.)
If  laws have been broken then their needs to be a consequence for that.
When there is just a blatant disregard for law enforcement officers it is going to
cause anarchy in the streets!  And I think it’s getting close to that in certain area of
Baltimore.
 
 
 

 

You wouldn't add, The death in custody of a young black man under mysterious circumstances who really shouldn't have been arrested in the first place?

BTW, what split second decision did the Freddie Gray arrest and transport present these officers with?

And, what would you propose to reverse the "breakdown of the family"?

Last edited by Goose (5/03/2015 2:02 pm)


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

5/03/2015 1:59 pm  #9


Re: Baltimore Sergeant Warns Superiors:

BTW, does the sergeant propose a course of action?


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

5/03/2015 3:01 pm  #10


Re: Baltimore Sergeant Warns Superiors:

You wouldn't add, The death in custody of a young black man under mysterious circumstances who really shouldn't have been arrested in the first place?  -  Goose

This is a very important point, and it should be the point for right now.

As far as the 'breakdown' of the family and the 'failure in the education system', you would have to flesh that out with some specific solutions for me.  Not arguing with you, Common, or saying you are wrong, just asking for clarification and solutions to what you perceive as roots of the problem that put the Baltimore police department in this pickle.

 

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