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5/02/2015 12:15 pm  #1


Malzberg | Dershowitz - A Sad Day for Justice Motivated by Crowd Contr

Alan Dershowitz -  "This is a show trial"

The Dershowitz interview starts at 2:10
Malzberg | Dershowitz - A Sad Day for Justice Motivated by Crowd Control, Any Conviction Unlikely Published on May 1, 2015

Legendary Harvard Law School Professor & Newsmax Contributor Alan Dershowitz tells Steve Malzberg that this is a Sad Day for Justice Motivated by Crowd Control, Any Conviction Unlikely, in reference to the six Baltimore police officers who were criminally charged today by State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby in the death of Freddie Gray.
 



 

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5/02/2015 3:14 pm  #2


Re: Malzberg | Dershowitz - A Sad Day for Justice Motivated by Crowd Contr

If there are not (legitimate) charges brought against some or all of the police officers and some or all are not convicted will Baltimore burn, burn?

 

5/02/2015 4:01 pm  #3


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flowergirl wrote:

If there are not (legitimate) charges brought against some or all of the police officers and some or all are not convicted will Baltimore burn, burn?

At a guess I'd say yes.

I'm curious how they will find any jurors who aren't already on one side or the other of this issue.


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5/02/2015 6:08 pm  #4


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The police need to be held accountable for the death, in their custody, of a man they had no cause to arrest in the first place.


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5/02/2015 9:32 pm  #5


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Goose wrote:

The police need to be held accountable for the death, in their custody, of a man they had no cause to arrest in the first place.

Agreed.  But it might be a good idea to hold off on the trial until things cool down.

Emotions are running very, very high.  This is not the best time for a courtroom drama.


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5/03/2015 4:46 am  #6


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Conspiracy Theory wrote:

Goose wrote:

The police need to be held accountable for the death, in their custody, of a man they had no cause to arrest in the first place.

Agreed.  But it might be a good idea to hold off on the trial until things cool down.

Emotions are running very, very high.  This is not the best time for a courtroom drama.

I would argue that the trial process should occur at a normal pace. It should neither be rushed nor delayed to satisfy other interests.


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

5/04/2015 9:35 am  #7


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I'm not sure where the too fast of indictment is coming from, does anyone here expect to sit at home for a few more days after the autopsy report shows "homicide" ?

 

5/04/2015 9:42 am  #8


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I watched the prosecutor's press conference last Friday and the state seems to have a solid foundation for charges if how they described the sequence of events is true. 

The one thing that kept coming up in how over numerous stops to check on Gray, they had an opportunity to simply buckle him into a seat, as is standard operating procedure. That alone may have prevented his death.

As this works its way through the legal system, I'm sure we will find out more as this isn't a case of a secret grand jury going through deliberations. This will all be very public. If the state can prove its case, then the officers should be held accountable. And if the officers can prove reasonable doubt, they'll be exhonerated.

My guess is a lot of this will be plea bargained down.


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5/04/2015 10:12 am  #9


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TheLagerLad wrote:

I watched the prosecutor's press conference last Friday and the state seems to have a solid foundation for charges if how they described the sequence of events is true. 

The one thing that kept coming up in how over numerous stops to check on Gray, they had an opportunity to simply buckle him into a seat, as is standard operating procedure. That alone may have prevented his death.

As this works its way through the legal system, I'm sure we will find out more as this isn't a case of a secret grand jury going through deliberations. This will all be very public. If the state can prove its case, then the officers should be held accountable. And if the officers can prove reasonable doubt, they'll be exhonerated.

My guess is a lot of this will be plea bargained down.

Let's hope the trial is completely open and publicized. I think a lot will come out on both sides as the testimony and cross examinations unfold. We who are not subject to this day in and day out (and I mean that from both sides) may learn a lot as the cases progress. 





 


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5/04/2015 10:27 am  #10


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TheLagerLad wrote:

I watched the prosecutor's press conference last Friday and the state seems to have a solid foundation for charges if how they described the sequence of events is true. 

The one thing that kept coming up in how over numerous stops to check on Gray, they had an opportunity to simply buckle him into a seat, as is standard operating procedure. That alone may have prevented his death.

As this works its way through the legal system, I'm sure we will find out more as this isn't a case of a secret grand jury going through deliberations. This will all be very public. If the state can prove its case, then the officers should be held accountable. And if the officers can prove reasonable doubt, they'll be exhonerated.

My guess is a lot of this will be plea bargained down.

 

Good points. I think that after a suspect has been restrained, handcuffed, ankles shackled, and as reports state, placed prone in a vehicle, he is helpless and the police become responsible for his safety.

One troubling thing, I saw a forensic pathologist on Morning Joe Friday, and have read some other comments by medical experts. They all stressed that it takes a rather tremendous amount of force to fracture and displace the c-spine of a healthy young man. They said that Gray could not have generated such force simply by banging his head voluntarily.
What on earth happened?

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