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Many of the congressional Republicans who are praising President Donald Trump's decision to strike a Syrian airfield were opposed to President Obama's request to approve a similar action against Syria in 2013.
Trump ordered the launch of more than 50 tomahawk cruise missiles on Thursday in retaliation for Syrian leader Bashar Al-Assad's reported use of chemical weapons against his own people.
In August of 2013, after Assad used chemical weapons in a similar scenario against people in the Syrian city of Ghouta, Obama requested congressional permission to launch air strikes against the Assad regime.Many Republicans opposed his request. One of the most prominent was Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, who on Friday tweeted out his support for Trump's strike, writing, "This was a clear signal from America that Bashar al Assad can no longer use chemical weapons against his own people with impunity."
This is why politics sucks !
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In August of 2013, after Assad used chemical weapons in a similar scenario against people in the Syrian city of Ghouta, Obama requested congressional permission to launch air strikes against the Assad regime. Many Republicans opposed his request.
I remember that. Funny thing is Obama asked congress for approval, got shot down, and now the R-tribe blames Obama for the mess in Syria today.
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Sad state of hyperpartisan america.
People support or oppose military action based upon the party of the president.
People high-five the Gorsuch confirmation while being unable to intelligently discuss a single one of his rulings.
Flip flopping, and lying are either vital or unimportant based upon what team jersey the guy wears
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Since the Korean 'police action' in the 50's, and the Vietnam Nam 'peace keeping intervention' by the U.S. Military, the federal legislature in Washington, DC has chosen to abdicate their constitutional responsibility when it comes to declarations of war. They would rather shirk that responsibility and leave it up to the executive branch by granting things like the Gulf of Tonkin resolution and granting extensions to military incursions into war zones. That way, if things go wrong, legislators can just blame the president. If things go OK (as far as things can go OK in war) the same legislators will just pat themselves on the back, keep spending taxpayer dollars to support the 'intervention', and continue to grant extensions. This game has nothing to do with confronting an enemy, building allied coalitions, or winning a war . . . it's all about getting re-elected to the senate or house without really having to fulfill your constitutionally required oath of office. Oh . . . and if a few foreigners and U.S. servicemen and women get killed or wounded . . . that's just incidental.
I advocate that each member of the senate and house be required to send a close relative to fight in the war zone . . . you know, so they all have some blood in the game, and maybe they'll pay more attention to what's going on where they allow the troops to go.
I also advocate for term limits for these bozos and hopefully they'll spent more time actually legislating and less time raising money for their re-election.
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Obama made the threat about the red line and then when that line was clearly crossed he backed peddled.
He could of taken some type of action but decided against that and then tried to place the blame on congress for his inaction. So we know what happened after he refused to follow through with some military action. Hundreds of thousands killed and a massive refugee problem that has cause problems across the world. All he had to do was do what he said he would and a completely different tone would have been set.
September 1, 2013,
Obama's request for congressional approval on a Syria strike marks "retreat," Syrian state media says
"Whether the Congress lights the red or green light for an aggression, and whether the prospects of war have been enhanced or faded, President Obama has announced yesterday, by prevaricating or hinting, the start of the historic American retreat," Al-Thawra said.
"Obama has given himself a chance to take a step backward by talking about Congress' approval and to search for other parties to participate in the attack," Haidar told The Associated Press by telephone. "In other words, he wants to keep brandishing the sword of aggression on Syria without fully giving up the idea of an attack and even without setting a definite date for the aggression."
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You're quoting "Syrian State Media" in support of some obscure point unrelated to the thread topic?
Unbelievable
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Obama says U.S. will take military action against Syria, pending Congress’s approval
August 31, 2013
Shifting the burden to Congress potentially gives the president a way out of the political bind he created last year when he said Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s use of chemical weapons would be a “red line” for the United States.
It also buys the administration time to shore up domestic and international support for a strike that many came to see as a hasty response with potentially catastrophic consequences.The decision could work in Assad’s favor, giving him more time to prepare for an attack that could ultimately become politically untenable for Obama.Obama argued Saturday that the United States would be setting a dangerous precedent if it did not respond to the Aug. 21 attack in a Damascus suburb, which U.S. intelligence officials say killed nearly 1,500 civilians, including 426 children.
“This attack is an assault on human dignity,” Obama said in an impassioned afternoon address in the White House Rose Garden. “It also presents a serious danger to our national security. . . . It could lead to escalating use of chemical weapons, or their proliferation to terrorist groups who would do our people harm.”
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Goose wrote:
You're quoting "Syrian State Media" in support of some obscure point unrelated to the thread topic?
Unbelievable
Typical response........... Obama made the statement and then did not follow through!
That is why we are where we are today. Obama's feckless Foreign policy!
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Common Sense wrote:
Obama made the threat about the red line and then when that line was clearly crossed he backed peddled.
He could of taken some type of action but decided against that and then tried to place the blame on congress for his inaction. So we know what happened after he refused to follow through with some military action. Hundreds of thousands killed and a massive refugee problem that has cause problems across the world. All he had to do was do what he said he would and a completely different tone would have been set.
September 1, 2013,
Obama's request for congressional approval on a Syria strike marks "retreat," Syrian state media says
"Whether the Congress lights the red or green light for an aggression, and whether the prospects of war have been enhanced or faded, President Obama has announced yesterday, by prevaricating or hinting, the start of the historic American retreat," Al-Thawra said.
"Obama has given himself a chance to take a step backward by talking about Congress' approval and to search for other parties to participate in the attack," Haidar told The Associated Press by telephone. "In other words, he wants to keep brandishing the sword of aggression on Syria without fully giving up the idea of an attack and even without setting a definite date for the aggression."
So, now you're giving credence to some press release by the Syrian state media spokesman criticizing Obama inaction in 2013 due to the U.S. Legislature's abdication of their responsibility when it comes to a declaration of war? The various conflicts in the Mideast and the U.S. Military involvement shortcomings has much more to do with the inability of the federal legislative branch's inability to stand up and perform their constitutionally defined responsibilities than the actions of any president since the 1950's.
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So, common,now you are confirming what Tennyson posted?
Good.
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