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4/26/2015 7:52 am  #1


Sorry, But It's Not 'Open Season' on Christians

I'm not suggesting, here, that considerations of religious freedom are somehow unimportant. But any discussion of religious freedom and its scope in the United States must begin from the assumption that Christianity, has been and continues to be the majority religion, with all the cultural, social and political influence that goes along with it -- and it is not, as a whole, marginalized or oppressed. To say otherwise is not only disingenuous, but counterproductive for everyone in the long run.



Sorry, But It's Not 'Open Season' on Christians

Hollis Phelps


As I was driving through upstate South Carolina on my way to Georgia last week, something caught my attention. Bored with the drive, I started flipping through stations on the radio, and my attention was drawn to the sheer number of stations that host conservative, evangelical Christian content and programs.

I must have run across at least ten such stations around Greenville, South Carolina, variously playing old school hellfire and brimstone sermons along with more contemporary, polished ones -- no frills, practically-focused Bible studies, focus-on-the-family-style parenting advice, conservative political commentary and different types of music, from the traditional to the immediately-recognizable contemporary Christian. All this, while passing billboards reminding me in one way or another that "Jesus Saves," roadside churches advertising worship times and billboards advertising evangelical guru Dave Ramsey's popular advice and opinion program.

I bring all this up because I think it provides some anecdotal, though well-founded and, frankly, rather obvious, evidence that challenges one of the pet narratives of the political and religious right: That Christians in the United States are being systematically marginalized and, perhaps, even oppressed by a secular, liberal agenda. That narrative has, it seems, become more prominent as of late, over issues related specifically to laws in numerous states that, in one way or another, seek to limit unwarranted government intrusion into the individual exercise of religion.

Critics, of course, contend that such laws not-so-subtly target persons who identify as LGBTQ. In the case of Indiana's own Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA), passed in March, that criticism translated into intense backlash, as opponents of the law panned it -- rightly, I think -- as using "religious freedom" as a legal guise to protect and, perhaps, sanction old-fashioned discrimination.

The backlash to such laws has, not surprisingly, generated its own backlash, with the troops rallied for the so-called culture wars. Or, at least that's what we're told. Hence, we hear someone like Bill O'Reilly say, "If you're a Christian or a white man in the U.S.A., it's open season on you."

I'll leave aside O'Reilly's appeal to gender and race, though it's important to note in passing that there's often a close rhetorical connection between the assertion of religious freedom and gender bias, white privilege and heterosexism. Nevertheless, it's hard to take seriously the narrative of widespread marginalization and, on top of that, oppression, when the American landscape remains saturated with Christianity in numerous shapes and forms. Although the idea that the United States is a "Christian nation" may be an invention of relatively recent vintage, it's undeniable that Christian assumptions, mores and symbols continue to shape the cultural, social and political landscape, for better or worse. That's one reason why someone like Bill O'Reilly even has an audience in the first place, and that's what struck me while driving through South Carolina.

Thus, although it's often claimed that the expansion of rights to persons who identify as LGBTQ indicates that the broad, cultural influence of a particular interpretation of those assumptions, mores and symbols is on the decline, Christianity still remains an extremely influential force in the American landscape. Indeed, in some places, it is the American landscape. Moreover, even if we accept the narrative of decline, that doesn't immediately translate into marginalization and, particularly, oppression.

For Christians to claim as much is not only ironic, in the sense that it co-opts the position of those who have been -- and, in many cases, continue to be -- marginalized and oppressed, many of whom, it's worth pointing out, also identify as Christian. It also completely devalues the very real persecution and sometimes lethal threats that individuals, groups and religions face on a daily basis. To put it bluntly, serving a gay couple at a business, even if you're "against their lifestyle," is a far cry from being executed for your religious beliefs. It's probably just what Jesus would do.

Indeed, rather than showing that it's "open season" on Christians, the very fact that 21 states now have RFRA-style laws on the books, with more considering them, shows the opposite. That is as much as the relative ease with which a federal law originally intended to protect the freedom of marginalized, minority religions can be turned into one that at the state level allows for discrimination on the basis of majority religious beliefs.

I'm not suggesting, here, that considerations of religious freedom are somehow unimportant. But any discussion of religious freedom and its scope in the United States must begin from the assumption that Christianity, albeit variously and in different forms, has been and continues to be the majority religion, with all the cultural, social and political influence that goes along with it -- and it is not, as a whole, marginalized or oppressed. To say otherwise is not only disingenuous, but counterproductive for everyone in the long run.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hollis-phelps/sorry-but-christianity-is_b_7108450.html?utm_hp_ref=religion


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4/26/2015 8:00 am  #2


Re: Sorry, But It's Not 'Open Season' on Christians

And, in a related story, the GOP's get-together in Iowa looked more like an old tme rivival meeting:

WAUKEE, Iowa—Nine Republican candidates drew from their personal experiences and spoke about the depth of their faith in seeking to appeal to religious voters who face a broad slate of 2016 Republican presidential candidates.

Speaking before more than 1,000 attendees of a multicandidate forum here Saturday, the declared and potential Republican contenders voiced concerns about religious freedoms being under threat in the U.S., and expressed the need to protect Christianity at home and abroad.

They also emphasized the need to further America’s strength overseas and pivot sharply from the policies of the Obama administration.
“Religious liberty is an issue that unifies us,” said Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who drew some of the loudest applause of the night. “We embrace the liberty of the Bill of Rights for each and every American to worship God.”



 

Last edited by Just Fred (4/26/2015 8:01 am)

 

4/26/2015 11:34 am  #3


Re: Sorry, But It's Not 'Open Season' on Christians

It's rather interesting that Bill O'Reilly, who is White, male and Christian, and claims that it's "open season" on him, has acquired a fortune of about $50 million and has a top rated cable show.

Man, where can I get some of that oppression?


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4/26/2015 5:51 pm  #4


Re: Sorry, But It's Not 'Open Season' on Christians

Well, maybe all the Christian white guys not worth 50 million are being oppressed, too?  I'm feeling oppressed myself.

 

4/28/2015 9:05 am  #5


Re: Sorry, But It's Not 'Open Season' on Christians

I would say that world-wide that Christians have the sad distinction of being the most abused religion.
But, not in the US.
Not by a mile.
Christianity is the dominant religion here, with all of the advantages that implies.

For American Christians to claim persecution is to insult all of those Christains in Africa, the middle East and Asia who have to deal with real, actual persecution on a daily basis.


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4/28/2015 9:06 am  #6


Re: Sorry, But It's Not 'Open Season' on Christians

Common Sense wrote:

O'Reilly: "No Question It Is Open Season On Christians"

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/04/03/oreilly_no_question_it_is_open_season_on_christians.html

BILL O'REILLY: Kenya, Africa -- five radical Muslim killers murdered at least 70 people at a college at that country. At least another 75 were wounded.

Gunmen burst into a Christian prayer service, proceeded to shoot down the innocent worshipers. That comes after a mid March suicide bombing in Pakistan killing 14 Christians, wounding 70 others. A few weeks before that, Libya -- ISIS killers beheading 21 Egyptian Christians. So you can see Christians are being slaughtered all over the place.

Here in the U.S.A., verbal attacks against Christians are the headlines. As we reported yesterday, some far-left people aided by a sympathetic media are now smearing Americans who oppose things like abortion and gay marriage. No question it is open season on Christians.

Depending on who you ask, somewhere between 150,000 and 1 million Iraqis died during the Iraq war. Would we have said it's "Open Season on Muslims"?

We certainly didn't kill all of those people because of thier religious beliefs.

And as for "verbal attacks" against Christians in the U.S., last time I checked, people were still free to attend any church they want. Christians (unless you're old, black, and registered democrat) can vote. And we live in a country where 3/4 of the population identify as Christian.

I don't see the persecution that Bill O'Reilly does.


 


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4/28/2015 9:12 am  #7


Re: Sorry, But It's Not 'Open Season' on Christians

O'Reilly is truly gifted at manipulating the fears of others for $$$


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4/28/2015 9:18 am  #8


Re: Sorry, But It's Not 'Open Season' on Christians

Goose wrote:

O'Reilly is truly gifted at manipulating the fears of others for $$$

And honestly, it's more damaging to U.S.Christians than helpful because it portrays them as victims when they're not. 

So then when there is a real grievence, a majority of people roll their eyes and ignore it. And that's not good for anyone.


I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
 

4/28/2015 9:44 am  #9


Re: Sorry, But It's Not 'Open Season' on Christians

TheLagerLad wrote:

Goose wrote:

O'Reilly is truly gifted at manipulating the fears of others for $$$

And honestly, it's more damaging to U.S.Christians than helpful because it portrays them as victims when they're not. 

So then when there is a real grievence, a majority of people roll their eyes and ignore it. And that's not good for anyone.

 
Exactly. When you are subjected to such ridiculous theatrics, you tend to write off their concerns altogether.


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
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4/28/2015 10:31 am  #10


Re: Sorry, But It's Not 'Open Season' on Christians

This may be a little off topic, but maybe it is ingrained in the Christian mindset to think of and perceive themselves as victims.  Sort of a Jesus identification thing? 

 

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