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2/25/2017 10:36 am  #1


Republicans Attack Free Speech

In states, curbs on protests pursued

By Christopher Ingraham The Washington Post
Posted: February 25, 2017 at 3:01 a.m.

Since the election of Donald Trump, Republican lawmakers in at least 17 states have introduced or voted on legislation to curb mass protests in what civil-liberties experts are calling "an attack on protest rights throughout the states."

From Virginia to Washington state, legislators have introduced bills that would increase punishments for blocking highways, ban the use of masks during protests, indemnify drivers who strike protesters with their cars, and in at least once case seize the assets of people involved in protests that later turn violent. They come after a string of mass protest movements in the past few years, covering everything from police shootings of unarmed black men to the Dakota Access pipeline to the inauguration of Donald Trump.

Some are introducing bills because they say they're necessary to counter the actions of "paid" or "professional" protesters who set out to intimidate or disrupt, a common accusation that some experts say is largely overstated. "You now have a situation where you have full-time, almost professional agent-provocateurs that attempt to create public disorder," said Republican state Sen. John Kavanagh of Arizona in support of a measure there that would bring racketeering charges against some protesters.

Others, like the sponsors of a bill in Minnesota, say the measures are necessary to protect public safety on highways. Still other bills, in states like Oklahoma and South Dakota, are intended to discourage protesting related to oil pipelines.

Democrats in many of these states are fighting the legislation. They cite existing laws that already make it a crime to block traffic, the possibility of a chilling effect on protests across the political spectrum, and concerns for protesters' safety in the face of aggressive motorists.

None of the proposed legislation has yet been passed into law, and several bills have already been shelved in committee.

Critics doubt whether many of the laws would pass constitutional muster. "The Supreme Court has gone out of its way on multiple occasions to point out that streets, sidewalks and public parks are places where [First Amendment] protections are at their most robust," said Lee Rowland, a senior attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union.

This is by no means the first time in American history that widespread protests have inspired a legislative backlash, said Douglas McAdam, a Stanford sociology professor who studies protest movements. "For instance, southern legislatures -- especially in the Deep South -- responded to the Montgomery Bus Boycott (and the Supreme Court's decision in Brown v. Board) with dozens and dozens of new bills outlawing civil rights groups, limiting the rights of assembly, etc. all in an effort to make civil rights organizing more difficult," he said in an email.

"Similarly," he added, "laws designed to limit or outlaw labor organizing or limit labor rights were common in the late 19th/early 20th century."

Rowland said the new bills are not about "creating new rules that are necessary because of some gap in the law." She points out, for instance, that "every single city and county in the United States" already has laws on the books against obstructing traffic on busy roads.

Rather, Rowland said the laws' intent is "increasing the penalties for protest-related activity to the point that it results in self-censorship among protesters who have every intention to obey the law."

Today, social media has made it possible to organize larger protests more rapidly than ever before. "The older laws are becoming less effectual in dealing with these kind of groups," said Michael Heaney of the University of Michigan, a political sociologist who studies protest movements. On top of that, "the courts have said, 'look, the people have a right to protest in this way.'"


http://www.nwaonline.com/news/2017/feb/25/in-states-curbs-on-protests-pursued-201/


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

2/25/2017 12:39 pm  #2


Re: Republicans Attack Free Speech

Fortunately, I can't imagine any of these proposed laws would hold up in any court since they clearly violate the first amendment of Freedom of Assembly. 


I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
 

2/25/2017 2:20 pm  #3


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Maybe if they stopped breaking multiple laws people would not being trying to protect other citizens who just want to be left alone.

If the "protesters" acted like responsible adults but we all know what has happened. Any reasonable thinking is gone they are in attack mode. Anyone or anything will pay a price if they are not happy!
The tantrum contuines across our nation.

I will say the rioters in DC on inauguration day were charged with felonies! Great! 


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

2/25/2017 2:32 pm  #4


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Common Sense wrote:

Maybe if they stopped breaking multiple laws people would not being trying to protect other citizens who just want to be left alone.

If the "protesters" acted like responsible adults but we all know what has happened. Any reasonable thinking is gone they are in attack mode. Anyone or anything will pay a price if they are not happy!
The tantrum contuines across our nation.

I will say the rioters in DC on inauguration day were charged with felonies! Great! 

I think we need to be careful to differentiate protesting and violence.

I have no problem with increasing penalties against anyone who, as part of a protest, destroys public or private property, or attacks another person.

But the first amendment is pretty clear that congress shall pass no law restricting the freedom of assembly or expression.
 


I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
 

2/25/2017 2:58 pm  #5


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Common will never be OK with demonstrations from the other side. He condemned the vandalism on inauguration day. Then, when the women marched and there was no violence, he sneered about littering.

The fact that he refers to the right of The People to assemble as a "tantrum" speaks volumes.


I do wish that conservatives would ponder for a moment the fact that there is an amendment that the founders considered so important that they listed it before the Second Amendment. 

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