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Off to a Poor Start
Donald trump's approval rating stands at 44%, the lowest of any transition since Gallup has been measuring the number. (And a jaw dropping 51% disapproval rating).
At this point Obama stood at 83%, and GWB was at 61%.
Much has been written here on the exchange about how trump's performance has not turned off his fans. True.
What is also true is that trump has NOT been able to move the nation beyond election mode and reassure those who did not vote for him. Trump better not lose a single old fan,,,, because he isn't winning any new ones.
Look for a tumultuous and dangerous four years.
Acrimony, scandal, upheaval.
We will be lucky to escape disaster.
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Particularly alarming for trumpers, Trumps approval rating among independents fell from 46% to 33% in the last month.
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Thread Starter- Common Sense
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Yea.... we are so alarmed! 
Hysterical stuff!
Not even sworn in yet! The left can not accept that Hillary lost. Weeks since the election and their heads are spinning. The democratic party in utter shambles. The dems had better wake up or they will lose more Senate seats in 2018!
“We hold these truths to be self-evident,” former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”
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"Don't underestimate the guy," Obama said. "He's going to be the 45th president of the United States."
“We hold these truths to be self-evident,” former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”
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I can understand how worried you must be, common, but try to calm down and actually think. Put your gun down and talk with us.
This has nothing to do with Hillary.
This is an apples to apples comparison of this president with others at the same point in their presidency. And it does not look good for trump uniting a nation.
Once again, please calm down.
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Here is the approval / disapproval ratings for recent transitions.
Trump 44 / 51
Obama 83 / 12
GWB 61 / 25
Clinton 68 / 18
Perhaps common can explain to the group how his claim that the Democratic Party is in shambles relates to this Gallup poll.
Because I don't get it.
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I think too much is made out of approval ratings.
What I will find interesting is to see if Trump governs to the Gallup polls. Does he consistently change his position based on polling or does he have positions of principle that he'll maintain however unpopular the may be across the country?
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Well, "Approval" can be a fleeting thing.
Your questions are interesting.
. Also interesting that you look at the Same poll, at the same time, in four presidencies and see a huge outlier. What, if anything does it portend?
That was my point.
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I don't think Trump plans to pay attention to anyone or anything (polls, approval ratings, 'experts') other than his inner circle -- Jared Kushner, Ivanka, and his sons. But, mostly, Donald will pay attention to his own egocentric personality. His positions will change with the whims of his own mind and prejudices.
I don't think that it will take too long for him to irritate his republican allies. This will further enamore him to his staunchest supporters that voted for him because of his rebellious attitude, but will prove to be a real roadblock for his agenda (if he ever lets anyone know exactly what that is other than the wall, getting rid of the ACA, and blaming Obama for everything is wrong in the U.S. and the rest of the world) and how he's able to operate in D.C.
Donald is convinced that he can do no wrong, and, therefore, everything he does must be right.
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Re: Off to a Poor Start
TheLagerLad wrote:
I think too much is made out of approval ratings.
What I will find interesting is to see if Trump governs to the Gallup polls. Does he consistently change his position based on polling or does he have positions of principle that he'll maintain however unpopular the may be across the country?
Interesting question, my guess is he will not govern by the polls. He had horrible poll numbers and favorability ratings during the campaign and many people telling him he needed to change, but he basically ignored them all did it his way.
In regards to Trumps approval ratings, I'm not surprised by them. He is well known and people have formed concrete opinions on based upon his controversial statements. People who dislike him have a strong dislike for him and it will take alot to change their minds. I don't see his ratings changing much until he gets into office and we start seeing results from his decision making, either good or bad.
For what it is worth, I think Hillary would probably have had a lower than normal approval rating for a new President as well, considering the people who voted against her have a strong dislike and she had a low favorability rating as well