Pro-Gun Representatives Introduce Hearing Protection Act to Reform Outdated Suppressor Laws

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20151022/pro-gun-representatives-introduce-hearing-protection-act-to-reform-outdated-suppressor-laws

On Thursday, Rep. Matt Salmon (R-AZ) introduced H.R. 3799, the Hearing Protection Act (HPA). Joining him were 10 co-sponsors, including Representatives Frank Guinta (R-NH), John Carter (R-TX), Mike Kelly (R-PA), Chris Collins (R-NY), Glenn Thompson (R-PA), Tim Huelskamp (R-KS), Trent Franks (R-AZ), Mia Love (R-UT), Doug LaMalfa (R-CA), and Chris Stewart (R-UT). The HPA would remove sound suppressors from regulation under the National Firearms Act (NFA), leaving them to be treated as ordinary firearms subject to the usual NICS check and Form 4473 for dealer sales.Currently, suppressors (misleadingly referred to as “silencers” in federal law) are subject to the NFA’s cumbersome and lengthy application, “CLEO sign-off,” and $200 taxation provisions. This is so, even though the devices themselves are completely harmless. Their primary function is to reduce the muzzle report of the firearm to which they are attached, protecting the hearing of the firearm’s operator and reducing noise and disturbance to those in nearby vicinities. Unlike their portrayal in popular movies and television shows, the devices do not render firearms all but soundless. They do, however, make them safer and quieter to operate, reducing the sound that reaches the shooter by about the same degree as a pair of earplugs or earmuffs.  Although they have been subject to heightened regulation under federal law since 1934, suppressors have become increasingly popular in recent years, as more and more hunters and firearm enthusiasts have discovered their benefits. Suppressors may be legally obtained in 41 states, and they are lawful for hunting in 37.



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Last edited by Common Sense (1/15/2017 10:01 am)

Common Sense wrote:

Rongone wrote:

Common Sense: perhaps you can enlighten me as to exactly why and for what purpose a reasonable law abiding citizen would want or need one of these "suppressors".

Thanks.

Who determines what purpose is "acceptable" or the reason is acceptable?
There is a process in place to buy this. Follow it and you can own one.
 
Obviously many  reasonable law abiding citizen have decided to own this item as shown  by ATF stats. (Nearly 793,000 as of 2015)
 
 
 

 
Seriously Common, with all due respect, that response doesn't even attempt to answer my question. Please read my post #9 again carefully, think about the questions and then make an attempt to address the crux of the questions and provide a reasonable, rational, pertinent to the discussion answer.

Thanks.

Common Sense wrote:

Rongone wrote:

Common Sense: perhaps you can enlighten me as to exactly why and for what purpose a reasonable law abiding citizen would want or need one of these "suppressors".

Thanks.

Who determines what purpose is "acceptable" or the reason is acceptable?
 
 
 

 
Isn't government itself a process of The People determining what is acceptable?
I mean, could I use common 's excuse to get away with any behavior at all?
Who determines that it is or isn't acceptable to get an abortion?
Who determines if it's acceptable for people to cross the border without papers?

I get tired of law and order conservatives suddenly getting doe eyed when it comes to guns.
Who determines if it's acceptable to have a silencer?
The same people who determine if it's acceptable for me to store nuclear waste in my yard.

Last edited by Goose (1/15/2017 5:11 pm)

Tim15856 wrote:

Rongone wrote:

Common Sense: perhaps you can enlighten me as to exactly why and for what purpose a reasonable law abiding citizen would want or need one of these "suppressors".

Thanks.

Is it any wonder why the pro 2nd Amendment side doesn't want to give an inch when the other side obviously doesn't know squat about the subject? How about a link from the left wing dailykos to help explain things to you. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/5/405370/- I know you guys have the Hollywood view of guns and what they can do. Whenever they use a silenced gun they make it almost silent when that is not anywhere near the truth. For one thing, any bullet that hits super sonic speed will cause a sonic boom, so it can not be silent. The closest I've heard is using sub sonic .22 LR  with a silencer and it had a report a little louder than my 1000 fps pellet gun. In Europe, where you guys look to for gun control silencers are common, and sometimes required. Lowering the noise is better for your ears, the neighbors, and other hunters who don't have all the game within 3 miles spooked by your shot.

 
How nice.
I just love the arrogance that allows you to believe that you are the only person here who knows anything about guns. Bless your heart, Tim.

Is it any wonder we have such a divide when the gun nuts act in such a hostile, condescending manner whenever the topic is raised?

BTW, all of the points you made were in the article linked in the first post, which I read.

Last edited by Goose (1/17/2017 3:31 pm)

Rongone wrote:

Tim15856 wrote:

Rongone wrote:

Common Sense: perhaps you can enlighten me as to exactly why and for what purpose a reasonable law abiding citizen would want or need one of these "suppressors".

Thanks.

Is it any wonder why the pro 2nd Amendment side doesn't want to give an inch when the other side obviously doesn't know squat about the subject? How about a link from the left wing dailykos to help explain things to you. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/5/405370/- I know you guys have the Hollywood view of guns and what they can do. Whenever they use a silenced gun they make it almost silent when that is not anywhere near the truth. For one thing, any bullet that hits super sonic speed will cause a sonic boom, so it can not be silent. The closest I've heard is using sub sonic .22 LR  with a silencer and it had a report a little louder than my 1000 fps pellet gun. In Europe, where you guys look to for gun control silencers are common, and sometimes required. Lowering the noise is better for your ears, the neighbors, and other hunters who don't have all the game within 3 miles spooked by your shot.

 

Thanks Tim. Your audiological explanation of noise made by guns, bullets, and sonic booms was interesting, BUT really didn't answer my questions . . .

Unless you are saying that in Europe hunters use "suppressors" so other hunters and neighbors won't get their ears hurt, and so other animals they might shoot won't run away when the hear the shot.

And that's why everybody should have a "suppressor" for all their guns here in the good ol' U.S. of A.

Yeah . . . That's rational reasoning.


Or, how about this for an idea to go along with the "hearing protection act"

Instead of just pushing through a law to make it easier for people to get "suppressors" for their guns under the false pretense that the lawmakers are looking out for our collective hearing and protecting citizens from audiological damage due to the sound of gunfire, why don't we just make a law that requires any individual that is carrying a gun, (open or concealed carry, for hunting, self protection, or to compensate for small penis size) would be required to wear ear protection, not the ear buds but the big ones like ear muffs (I've included a link for an approved example) while they are walking around with their gun. This will help protect their hearing when they shoot their gun, and protect the rest of us by making it easy for us to be aware of who is walking around with a deadly weapon in our neighborhood. That way, the majority of citizens would know to stay away from the gun bearer when we see them, and, if they are out of sight, we can still hear the gunshots so we know to duck and cover and call the cops.

Here's the kind of hearing protection they'd be required to wear:
http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=741734&destination=/category/Hearing-Protection-Enhancement/104381280.uts

The answers from the gun lovers are really funny. 

Besides ALL sporting stores ALREADY have plenty of hearing gear for anyone who wants them that do more than than credible job. 

But, keep up those funny answers guys !