Gloaters gotta gloat.

Let's wait and see what the Drumpf dynasty proposes and puts into legislative action plans that truly benefit the vast majority of middle Americans before we cast judgement on the new administration.

Thus far, there have been no definitive plans or proposals put forth. Let's see how he puts some of his campaign rhetoric into reasonable national and international propositions. Let's see how effective he is in working with opposing points of view. Then we all can start making judgements on the viability of his administration.

I think you may be missing a couple of things, Tim. 

First of all, we need to remember that Clinton got more votes than Trump and many don't believe that's how democracies should work. 

Secondly, I still don't know what Trump's policies are.  Unfortunately for all of us (that includes you and me, too) the entire campaign season wasn't about discussing issues, policies, and real solutions based on rational thought and vision.  It was all about insults, innuendo, verbal bomb-throwing, and back and forth pissing contests.  In my opinion that's where Clinton's campaign blew it ............. she played Trump's game and Donald Trump is one of the best pissing contest combatants in America today.

Thirdly, most of us are willing to continue to promote our ideas regardless of who is elected president.  I'm ok with waiting to see what this new administration does to "make America great again".  I want to see if it's more than a catchy, hollow campaign slogan on a baseball cap.

And, finally, the ball is in his court.  He can prove to everyone that he's not the thin-skinned, narcissistic, egocentric, sociopathic, authoritarian that many others think he is, and he can do it via his decision-making.  I'm willing to give him a chance. 
 

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Is birther a nasty name showing The left's intolerance, or is it merely a descriptive term for people who denied, against all evidence,  that Obama was born in this country?
What else would one call them?

And, if you favor a total ban on Muslims traveling to the US, and wear a "F___ Islam" T shirt to a Trump rally, is not Islamophobia a fair term?

And, if you are a writer whose entire body of work is to author pieces denying that man made climate change is occurring,,,  is it hateful for me to refer to him as a denier? After all, he refers to me as a climate alarmist.

Not getting your point, Tim.

BTW, the right has no namecalling?
Good one Tim! 

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TheLagerLad wrote:

I have no problems with Trump fans gloating in the days after a hard fought election. Because in three months, the weight of the world will be on Trump's shoulders, and everything he does will be criticized in this hyper-partisan environment. 

I do have a problem with the people who are protesting, (although I support their right to do it.) We can't be for fair and free elections only when things go our way.

And for all the caterwalling people did over Obama being elected in '08 and '12, there wasn't anything like this by McCain/Romney supporters.

Everyone just needs to calm the hell down.

I think they will. I too detest any violence, but the protests themselves underscore that the Trump victory is not a public mandate by any stretch of the imagination. The 2008 election by contrast was a total mandate. The GOP has (as I stated in the Ryan post) a mandate to govern. I hope for the best and I believe do most if not all Americans. 
 

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