The New Exchange

You are not logged in. Would you like to login or register?



11/09/2016 11:01 am  #1


What's in Store for Mexico?

Mexico Braces for the Fallout of a Trump Presidency

MEXICO CITY — For Mexico, the nightmare came true.

Perhaps no country aside from the United States itself had as much at stake in the American presidential election as Mexico did.

Then early on Wednesday, it watched as Donald J. Trump became the next American president, bringing to power a candidate whose central promises have included building a wall between the two countries, upending decades-old trade deals and deporting millions of Mexican immigrants.

A volatile peso suffered its largest drop in nearly 20 years, a market stand-in for the general sentiment across Mexico as Mr. Trump was elected to the most powerful office in the world. For many, his election set back years of carefully cultivated efforts to improve the cross-border relationship, one that has been historically fraught. His election promises a turbulent financial future for Mexico, which relies on America as an economic lifeline, both in terms of trade and remittances.

“It’s an unmitigated disaster,” said Jorge Castañeda, a former Mexican foreign minister and professor of politics and Latin American studies at New York University. “There are very few tools to fix the relationship.”

For months, Mexico watched the campaign with a mix of fear and bemusement, forced to stare down a raw undercurrent of American vitriol unleashed by Mr. Trump’s candidacy. Now, the election seems a harbinger of hard days to come for the country, its economy, migration and even its state of mind.

“This election reminded us of the bad image Mexico has in the U.S.,” said Jesús Silva-Herzog, a columnist and professor at the Monterrey Institute of Technology and Higher Education in Mexico. “It has also served as a mirror in which we have painfully seen our reflection.”

“We will not have to wait for the presidential baton to be passed to feel the devastating effects, not only in economic terms but also the existential crisis it will cause,” he added.

Across Mexico City, hopes of an expected victory for Hillary Clinton were dashed as the state-by-state tallies went Mr. Trump’s way. In the streets, where Mexicans were already suffering a stagnant economy and worsening violence, the vote felt like a validation of Mr. Trump’s hostile remarks about Mexican immigrants and a broad statement of disrespect from their northern neighbors.

“Imagine what the U.S. will look like from now,” said Angelina González, who sells cosmetics in Mexico City. “A big wave of discrimination is coming.”

Among journalists from Horizontal, a cultural and political online magazine in Mexico City, spirits were low, and confusion reigned. Antonio Martínez Velázquez, a co-founder, reflected on the outcome with shock and a deep sense of uncertainty.

“This moment forces the world, including Mexico, to rethink its relationship with the U.S.,” he said. “This moment, which really is the end of an era, the end of the U.S. hegemony, is also the beginning of a new chapter for us in Mexico.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/10/world/americas/mexico-donald-trump-peso.html?hpw&rref=world&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=well-region&region=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

11/09/2016 11:13 am  #2


Re: What's in Store for Mexico?

I think, at the end of the day, not much changes for Mexico.

There isn't going to be a wall. Any changes to NAFTA will be minimal. The Senate (and probably the House) will never ever ever pass a bill that puts a 35% import tax on goods coming into the United States.

It may be a little touch and go in the beginning, but I think free trade will continue to rule the day.


I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
 

11/09/2016 11:16 am  #3


Re: What's in Store for Mexico?

Free trade continues,,,,
Disappointment # 1 for the Trump voter?


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
     Thread Starter
 

11/09/2016 11:43 am  #4


Re: What's in Store for Mexico?

IF the NAFTA deal is redone and it tanks the Mexican fragile economy that will actually give the drug cartel more power in Mexico which will wind up being a terrible outcome for the US as well as Mexico. 


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

11/09/2016 3:51 pm  #5


Re: What's in Store for Mexico?

Yes, I doubt that a poor economy in Mexico will be good for us.


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
     Thread Starter
 

11/11/2016 10:40 am  #6


Re: What's in Store for Mexico?

Goose wrote:

Free trade continues,,,,
Disappointment # 1 for the Trump voter?

Ah yes, free trade, such a great way for the globalist to get rich. There was a time when Democrats cared about the average working stiff, but no more. For years I've posted on a right wing forum. Years ago I'd fight with the pro big business corporatists, But now, almost all have realized just how bad the corporations have screwed the American worker. Even the Mexican worker is under pressure as jobs move to even lower wage countries. You can make all the excuses you want, you can't hide the fact that US jobs are lost with every free trade agreement.

 

11/11/2016 11:22 am  #7


Re: What's in Store for Mexico?

Tim15856 wrote:

Goose wrote:

Free trade continues,,,,
Disappointment # 1 for the Trump voter?

Ah yes, free trade, such a great way for the globalist to get rich. There was a time when Democrats cared about the average working stiff, but no more. For years I've posted on a right wing forum. Years ago I'd fight with the pro big business corporatists, But now, almost all have realized just how bad the corporations have screwed the American worker. Even the Mexican worker is under pressure as jobs move to even lower wage countries. You can make all the excuses you want, you can't hide the fact that US jobs are lost with every free trade agreement.

The flip side Tim is that the American worker also benefits from low cost goods coming from overseas.

Doesn't it make sense that we'll see that $10 t-shirt the working mom can buy for her kid at Wal-Mart would end up being $20 because of higher productions costs of being manufactured in the U.S.?


 


I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
 

11/11/2016 11:26 am  #8


Re: What's in Store for Mexico?

The American worker is actually being squeezed out of old time jobs by automation. That is NOT going away no matter how much is done. IF people don't realize this and adapt they will be left in the dust. It is not just the US, but foreign entities are facing the same long term dilemma.

Promises made to bring old jobs back will soon be realized to be hollow. 




 


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

11/11/2016 12:22 pm  #9


Re: What's in Store for Mexico?

Guess i am a 'globalist'.
So many labels to learn for people


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
     Thread Starter
 

11/11/2016 12:49 pm  #10


Re: What's in Store for Mexico?

Tim15856 wrote:

Goose wrote:

Free trade continues,,,,
Disappointment # 1 for the Trump voter?

Ah yes, free trade, such a great way for the globalist to get rich. There was a time when Democrats cared about the average working stiff, but no more. For years I've posted on a right wing forum. Years ago I'd fight with the pro big business corporatists, But now, almost all have realized just how bad the corporations have screwed the American worker. Even the Mexican worker is under pressure as jobs move to even lower wage countries. You can make all the excuses you want, you can't hide the fact that US jobs are lost with every free trade agreement.

So, you will be disappointed then if trump caves on free trade?

Last edited by Goose (11/11/2016 1:18 pm)


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
     Thread Starter
 

Board footera

 

Powered by Boardhost. Create a Free Forum