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7/07/2016 6:32 am  #1


Philly archbishop says no Communion for gay, unwed or divorced

Philly archbishop says no Communion for sexually active gay, unwed or divorced couples

PHILADELPHIA — Divorced and civilly remarried Catholics, as well as cohabitating unmarried couples, must "refrain from sexual intimacy" to receive Holy Communion in the Archdiocese of Philadelphia, Archbishop Charles J. Chaput has asserted in a new set of pastoral guidelines.

Released Friday, the guidelines instruct clergy and other archdiocesan leaders on implementing "Amoris Laetitia," a major document on family that Pope Francis issued in April.

Chaput's six-page instruction, which appears on the archdiocesan website, may be the first of its kind issued by the bishop of any American diocese in response to "Amoris Laetitia," Latin for "the joy of love."

Acknowledging that it is a "hard teaching," Chaput goes on to say that Catholics in same-sex partnerships, those remarried without a church annulment, and cohabitating persons may not serve on parish councils, instruct the faithful, serve as lectors or dispense Communion.

Allowing persons in such "irregular" relationships, "no matter how sincere," to hold positions of responsibility would "offer a serious counter-witness to Catholic belief, which can only produce moral confusion in the community," according to Chaput.


Known as an apostolic exhortation, it does not carry the weight of an encyclical but is viewed as a major teaching of the church.

Chaput served on the synod, or gathering of bishops, that advised Francis in 2015 on the creation of "Amoris," and was elected by those bishops to advise Francis after the synod. In June, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops named him chairman of a five-bishop committee to help promote the teachings of "Amoris Laetitia" in this country.

The Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate at Georgetown University estimates that there are 4.5 million Catholics in this country who are divorced and remarried without an annulment.

In his pastoral guidelines, Chaput praises "Amoris" for its "sections of exceptional beauty," and notes that it will serve as "key resources in revising and upgrading our [archdiocesan] marriage preparation program."

Chaput was not available to discuss the guidelines, but the Rev. Dennis Gill, director of the archdiocesan Office for Liturgy, described them Tuesday as "much larger than Communion and irregular relationships."

It was issued, Gill said, "as a way of applying all of 'Amoris Laetitia,'" which he said urges pastors to "accompany married couples in every type of situation" and also to be "companions" to those who fall short of the church's teachings and to guide them toward holiness.

Just what message Pope Francis intended to send to his pastors in "Amoris" has been a topic of some dispute.

In an oft-cited line, Francis wrote that the church and clergy have wasted "pastoral energy on denouncing a decadent world without proactively proposing ways to finding true happiness."

He also wrote that "it can no longer simply be said that all those in any 'irregular' situation are living in a state of mortal sin and are deprived of sanctifying grace."

But Gill was emphatic that the latter sentence does not permit Catholic clergy to decide on their own that an unmarried couple may receive Communion.

"There are people challenging the wisdom of that statement," said Gill, a professor at St. Charles Borromeo Seminary. "A lot of teachers and theologians feel it may not have been as well expressed as it should have been."

Chaput also noted that in spite of Francis' exhortation that clergy be sympathetic to those whose sexual relationships seem to marginalize them, the pope "states clearly that neither Church teaching nor the canonical discipline concerning marriage has changed."

The Rev. Thomas Reese, former editor of the Jesuit magazine America and a columnist for the weekly National Catholic Reporter, said that in "Amoris Laetitia," "Francis is clearly open to the possibility of divorced and remarried Catholics receiving Holy Communion.

"But I think he'd also leave this to the discretion of the local bishop," Reese said, "which means that Chaput can do what he wants in his diocese, but a neighboring bishop may take a much more open position."

Matt Kerr, spokesman for the Diocese of Allentown, said he is unaware of any plans for Bishop John O. Barres to issue similar guidelines. The Diocese of Camden did not respond to a request for comment.

Michael Rocks, president of the Philadelphia chapter of Dignity, a group for homosexual Catholics who believe it is permissible to be sexually active, said Tuesday he was not aware of Chaput's guidelines but that "they will not affect us, because we have a non-relationship with the archdiocese."

Pope John Paul II barred Dignity from meeting on any church property.

"But I wonder how they tell if straight people are following the sexual rules of the church," Rocks said. "How do they tell if the president of the parish council isn't into child pornography or having a sexual relationship?"

He said he was "not surprised" that Chaput would bar persons in unsanctioned relationships from holding positions of responsibility. "I can't imagine him saying anything else," Rocks said.

The Rev. Philip Bochanski, associate director for Courage International, a chaplaincy for homosexual Catholics striving to abide by church teachings on chastity, found "nothing new in the teachings that the archbishop formulated in those guidelines. The notion that a person needs to be in a state of grace to receive [Communion] goes back to Paul's letter to the Corinthians."

"The Gospel demands chastity," Bochanski said, "for everybody in their state in life."

http://www.mcall.com/news/nationworld/pennsylvania/mc-philly-diocese-chaput-communion-sex-20160706-story.html


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7/07/2016 9:22 am  #2


Re: Philly archbishop says no Communion for gay, unwed or divorced

Nuttiness thing I've heard in a long time.

 

7/07/2016 10:12 am  #3


Re: Philly archbishop says no Communion for gay, unwed or divorced

I was hoping that Pope Francis could move the Church beyond the peeking in people's bedroom thing.
But, it's going to take a long time.


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7/07/2016 11:35 am  #4


Re: Philly archbishop says no Communion for gay, unwed or divorced

It is a difficult conundrum for not only the Catholic church but all denominations as to how to balance what traditional teachings encompass yet embrace the "love thy neighbor as thyself" as Christ instructed. 

Most denominations at least have moved in a positive note on the "love they neighbor" position of the equation. 

 


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7/07/2016 12:06 pm  #5


Re: Philly archbishop says no Communion for gay, unwed or divorced

I was under the impression that membership was in a steady state of decline.

So now they can afford to alienate people?


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7/07/2016 12:38 pm  #6


Re: Philly archbishop says no Communion for gay, unwed or divorced

Conspiracy Theory wrote:

I was under the impression that membership was in a steady state of decline.

So now they can afford to alienate people?

Just as food for thought, wonder how many feel alienated by the changes in the church to accommodate more people that traditionally they might have exchuded ? It seems in particular that older people of faith do not like change in their institutions (please feel free to disagree with me if you feel differently)


 

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7/07/2016 2:21 pm  #7


Re: Philly archbishop says no Communion for gay, unwed or divorced

I wouldn't know about church membership. 

My knowledge of most religions is more of an academic nature.

I am of  the opinion that flexibility in one's core beliefs tends to be inversely proportional to one's level of commitment to those beliefs.


If you make yourself miserable trying to make others happy that means everyone is miserable.

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7/07/2016 2:55 pm  #8


Re: Philly archbishop says no Communion for gay, unwed or divorced

tennyson wrote:

Conspiracy Theory wrote:

I was under the impression that membership was in a steady state of decline.

So now they can afford to alienate people?

Just as food for thought, wonder how many feel alienated by the changes in the church to accommodate more people that traditionally they might have exchuded ? It seems in particular that older people of faith do not like change in their institutions (please feel free to disagree with me if you feel differently)


 

I see what you are saying. And I agree.
We can be a little too focused on seeing the Church Hierarchy as totally top down.
In reality there are many power centers in the Church. Bishops get a lot of autonomy. And the people get more of a voice than is readily apparent.
I don't think that this Bishop is speaking to people on the fence about these issues of sexuality, who are now going to say, "Oh the bishop is against this, I guess I won't have sex if I'm gay anymore".
No, he's more likely speaking words of comfort to an older, more conservative constituency of church members.
 


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7/07/2016 4:54 pm  #9


Re: Philly archbishop says no Communion for gay, unwed or divorced

The link between sexual conduct and participation in the Eucharist was established in the first century when the Apostle Paul wrote his first letter to the church at Corinth.

It is really a beautiful theology:  Christian partaking of the Eucharist receive the Body and Blood of Christ, and, in being joined to Christ, they are simultaneously joined to each other; so much that "if one member suffers, all suffer."   But the corollary is that what they do with their bodies is of great significance--they cannot be dualists who consider the body to bad at worst or a matter of indifference at best.   That is where the sexual morality enters in..

So this teaching can hardly be considered new.

The tragedy is that it had grown horribly lax, especially among the clergy.  The abuse scandals were preventable.


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7/08/2016 2:25 pm  #10


Re: Philly archbishop says no Communion for gay, unwed or divorced

This is the most interesting theological discussion I've had in ages.  Thanks


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