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YOUR words, not mine.
As I stated earlier the judge was limited by the code of silence in criminal court.
On the civil side the city spent 6.4 million to keep the case out of court because they were going to lose.
Because res ipsa loquitur.
It's a tort law concept that does not apply to criminal proceedings.
Last edited by Goose (6/24/2016 9:51 am)
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Sorry, but I don't know how to take your words any other way.
It is the prosecutions job to present evidence that will hold up. The judge was only limited by the evidence presented.
It is the prosecution that lost the case.
This, right or wrong, is how our justice system is supposed to work.
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I believe that I've explained myself clearly.
And it was not a criticism of the judge.
Sorry but I'm not taking a third try at conveying this
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If you all have the opportunity and/or patience to read a lengthy court opinion, you can find Judge Williams' ruling here.
Based on the law, and a reasonable assessment of the facts, I think the judge makes a reasonable conclusion to the case.
I do think it would have been appropriate for the judge to call out the police for the need for 6 stops along the way to the hospital. That seems unnecessary, in my opinion
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tennyson wrote:
Do you believe the judge was a racist ?
The judge is African American
Freddie Gray judge prosecuted police misconduct for Justice Department Before he was the judge overseeing the Freddie Gray trials, Barry G. Williams investigated and prosecuted police misconduct cases across the country for the federal government.
"His expertise in all aspects of investigating, prosecuting these kinds of cases is certainly an advantage" in the Gray case, Molloy said. "I don't know anybody better suited for this trial."Williams, 53, grew up in Red Bank, N.J., and earned a history degree from the University of Virginia and came to Baltimore to attend the University of Maryland School of Law, from which he graduated in 1987, according to his biography.
Williams prosecuted street crimes for the Baltimore state's attorney's office for eight years, until 1997. Court records show that at the time he left, he was prosecuting serious cases such as attempted murders, robberies and felony thefts — some of the same types of crimes that the officers charged in the Gray case handled on the streets.
Williams joined the Justice Department in 1997, first as a trial attorney in the criminal section of the Civil Rights Division, then rising to the position of special litigation counsel, a supervisory role in the unit. The Justice Department declined to provide information on his role with the agency, cases he worked, or why he received the various honors listed on his resume.
Judge Barry G. WilliamsApril 4, 1962: Born in Neptune, N.J.
1984: Bachelor's degree in history, University of Virginia
1987: Law degree, University of Maryland
1987-1988: Law clerk to Baltimore Circuit Judge Arrie W. Davis
1988-1989: Clerk to Court of Appeals Judge Robert M. Bell
1989-1997: Assistant state's attorney, Baltimore
1997-2005: Trial attorney/special litigation counsel, Civil Rights Division, U.S. Department of Justice
2005: Appointed an associate judge, Baltimore Circuit Court; elected to 15-year term in 2006
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Man have you missed the entire point.
Sheesh
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No you have missed the entire point. The prosecution failed to prove their case.
They have no one blame but themselves!
Sheesh..................... If you read the court transcripts you would understand that.
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Warren Brown talks after verdict
Last edited by Common Sense (6/25/2016 1:43 pm)
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Have to agree with both statements
The Man wrote:
The death of Freddy Gray is a case where the prosecutors thought they could win convictions on emotions alone, facts and justice be damned. Thankfully the judges and juries weren't/aren't stupid enough to play along.
tennyson wrote:I said from the beginning that the prosecution seemed to be inept and it is looking like that is the case. The judge seemed to detail pretty well just how bad prosecution's case was.
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Common Sense wrote:
Have to agree with both statements
The Man wrote:
The death of Freddy Gray is a case where the prosecutors thought they could win convictions on emotions alone, facts and justice be damned. Thankfully the judges and juries weren't/aren't stupid enough to play along.
tennyson wrote:I said from the beginning that the prosecution seemed to be inept and it is looking like that is the case. The judge seemed to detail pretty well just how bad prosecution's case was.
Likewise on agreement!
The prosecution was announced after minimal investigation to placate a mob.
The mob was motivated by vengeance.
There is still "justice for all."