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Goose wrote:
BYOB wrote:
Severe overreach of the EPA? Are you seriously suggesting that we have just too damn much protection of our environment? I'll believe that when we suffer from water and air that is too clean.
Yea, I thought that was a hoot as well.
It all fits into the playbook, though.
An out of control EPA, tying the hands of business.
IN WV the EPA can't even stop the coal companies from removing entire mountains, and the streams that are on them from existence.
I just get the s*#ts of people constantly trying to tell us that we don't see what we're seeing.
Sometimes I want to ask people "how far are you willing to go for industry?" What is o.k. and what is not? Is it o.k. to kill people with lung diseases to get coal out of the ground? Is it o.k. to remove the entire tops of mountains to get to something in the ground? Is there ever a point in which something's not acceptable in the name of money?
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Exactly.
What does it profit a man to gain the whole world, and lose his soul*?
* (Health, mountains, beauty, his kids' future, etc)
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Not at all surprised that Mitch would want to support the coal industry in Kentucky.
Don't they say "all politics is local". In this case it sure make sense.
BTW, I DO believe we either need to find alternatives to coal OR make it more envirornmentally friendly (ie extra costs) for the people that use it.
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I have to say that I wasn't at all surprised either. I was more saddened by the same - old, same - old. The only thing that makes sense to me is that people continue to predictably let themselves be governed by fear. Fear of change, fear of possibly not being able to provide for themselves and their family. The industry, in it's self- interest, scares people into fearing that if they go away, all the people's chance at a livelihood go away. So they work really hard to make that true, by rabidly opposing other industry options from taking root.
For example, if a clean energy industry set up shop in the same town as a coal industry, do you really think the average person, when given a choice, would choose to risk their actual life to provide for their families? I don't think they would. And neither does the coal industry. It's just another way that they try to make their interests our interests, when that isn't usually the case.
If most people don't care where their energy comes from, as long as they get it. And most people would prefer not to die of black lung or mine safety catastrophies, and most people would prefer that mountains and rivers not be destroyed, then that tells me that the only party that has any real interest in coal anymore is the industry itself.
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Exactly true.
This is not about the EPA having "pie in the sky" regulations.
It is about favoring the coal industry because, in their eyes, and in McConnell's the economic benefit of coal mining is more important than is the downside of health and environmental damage.
Mitch should be honest enough to admit as much and argue his case.
BTW, they've done a very good job at selling Kentuckians on the idea that they have to choose between Jobs and the environment. Seems they can't have both.
Where is it written that Kentuckians are fit only to mine coal? I bet they could build a new economy on other things.
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You mean Mitch, like most politicians, is more likely to seek out short term programs that may have a direct and immediate benefit to himself and his benefactors than to pursue long term solutions that will benefit all?
Shocking ! ! !
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Common Sense wrote:
Yea you are so right about all the phony wars……
War on women? Rich vs poor war, Gay vs straight war,
Black vs white war, Citizens vs illegal alien war.
This administration has done everything it can to divide
our country.
Yea, there's no racism in our country. It's just this administraion trying to divide us.
Fort Lauderdale Police Officers Fired Over Racist Text Messages, Video: Officials
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