Bernie is a little intoxicated by his recent jump in popularity, I think.
For most of his career he's been a bemusing crank from Vermont.

His journey has been remarkable, I grant him that.
But, he's doing slightly less well than clinton did in 2008, as I recall.
And she didn't threaten the party's chances in November with her "cause".
Of course, Bernie isn't really a democrat.

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Brady Bunch wrote:

tennyson wrote:

TheLagerLad wrote:

What happened in Nevada hurts Bernie's overall cause but I get it a little bit. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and the DNC had this whole thing rigged for Hillary from the beginning. 

That said, violence and childish disruptions by Sanders supporters are going to lessen their ability to have influence on the party platform at the convention.

Bernie needs to get everyone in line.

He needs to do it, but  WILL HE ??  That is the Million Dollar question right now.  

 

Based on that speech Bernie gave last night (where he ratched up the rhetoric on Clinton and the DNC) and his tepid condemnation of the violence in Nevada, I don't see him getting them in line.

Who would have guessed the Dems are going to have more of a messy convention then the Republicans

 

Only the folks at Fox 'news' . . . And they are harping on this like rabid dogs.

Both conventions will be somewhat of a circus (aren't they all?), but the republicans are going to have several more disorganized, disconnected circus rings going on, the ringmaster will have less control over the performers, and the crowd will be close to totally out of control. I can't wait to see the 16 vanquished candidates trot up to the podium on the stars & stripes festooned stage, with a patriotic Ted Nugent song blasting in the background, swallow the vomit in the back of their mouths (along with their pride, integrity, and self worth) and say they are behind Drumpf before they launch into a vitriolic diatribe about what a lying, deceptive, un-American witch Hillary Clinton is. THAT is the only thing they will agree upon.

Man, it will bring back memories of the 1968 Chicago convention.

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Just Fred wrote:

I can't help but think this kind of crap is only going to get worse down the line into the future.  If I were king I'd get to the source of this mess and completely re-vamp our convoluted, confusing, and dragged out primary system.

We've kicked this around before on several other threads.

Throwing down some laws on what you  can and can't do while campaigning would be nice too.

For once, I'd like to see ad's that don't suggest their candidate is the better choice because of how much the other candidate sucks.

TheLagerLad wrote:

What happened in Nevada hurts Bernie's overall cause but I get it a little bit. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and the DNC had this whole thing rigged for Hillary from the beginning. 

That said, violence and childish disruptions by Sanders supporters are going to lessen their ability to have influence on the party platform at the convention.

Bernie needs to get everyone in line.

I think that the Sanders people have overstated the unfairness issue.
Yes, Schultz as an open Clinton supporter is a poor choice for the position.
Yea, maybe the debates were set up in a way that Bernie didn't like. Although, I wonder if debates really help him. She holds her own.

The rest of the whining about delegate allotment, closed vs. open primaries, super delegates, etc is highly suspect.
Clinton leads in pledged delegates (AKA not super delegates). Clinton has over 3 million more votes than Sanders..
Bernie is losing because he is losing.
Hey, he won a huge 60-38 victory in the early bellwether state of New Hampshire, but could not turn it into any momentum in neighboring Massachusetts or in the South. Not Hillary's fault!

Hey, I get the frustration. But it's nothing new, nothing aimed specifically against Bernie.
I get momentum. In 2008 Clinton won 9 out of the last 12 primaries. She even had a very slight lead in total votes cast during the primaries. But, it's about accumulating delegates, and she lost.
Then Clinton nominated Obama at the convention.

Bernie, don't burn down the party in a bitter rage. The stakes are too high.

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