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5/02/2016 12:53 pm  #1


On a day like today


On a day like today, The people of Madrid rise up in rebellion against French 

May 02, 1808. Francisco de Goya witnessed first hand the French occupation of Spain in 1808, when Napoleon used the pretext of reinforcing his army in Portugal to seize the Spanish throne, leaving his brother Joseph in power. Attempts to remove members of the Spanish royal family from Madrid provoked a widespread rebellion. This popular uprising occurred between the second and third of May 1808, when suppressed by forces under Maréchal Joachim Murat. In this image: The Second of May 1808, also known as The Charge of the Mamelukes, a painting by the Spanish master Francisco de Goya


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5/03/2016 4:06 pm  #2


Re: On a day like today

Goya became very depressed during all of this at first thinking Napoleon was going to be some kind of liberator, but instead turned into a horrible tyrant.  Goya's paintings became very dark, moody, and somewhat scary.  Check out "Third of May, 1808" were he depicts Napoleon's army executing Spanish rebels.  If you can handle it, check out "Saturn Devouring His Children (son)". 

 

5/03/2016 4:54 pm  #3


Re: On a day like today

Just Fred wrote:

Goya became very depressed during all of this at first thinking Napoleon was going to be some kind of liberator, but instead turned into a horrible tyrant.  Goya's paintings became very dark, moody, and somewhat scary.  Check out "Third of May, 1808" were he depicts Napoleon's army executing Spanish rebels.  If you can handle it, check out "Saturn Devouring His Children (son)". 

Had a look at those and at other paintings from what they referred to as The Black Paintings.

His self-portrait is fascinating.
 


If you make yourself miserable trying to make others happy that means everyone is miserable.

-Me again

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5/03/2016 9:05 pm  #4


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To top it off, CT, if my memory serves me, he had several of those paintings hung in his dining room.

 

5/04/2016 4:52 am  #5


Re: On a day like today

Just Fred wrote:

Goya became very depressed during all of this at first thinking Napoleon was going to be some kind of liberator, but instead turned into a horrible tyrant.  Goya's paintings became very dark, moody, and somewhat scary.  Check out "Third of May, 1808" were he depicts Napoleon's army executing Spanish rebels.  If you can handle it, check out "Saturn Devouring His Children (son)". 

Truly a dark place.



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Interesting. According to the traditional interpretation, it depicts the Greek myth of the Titan Cronus (in the title Romanised to Saturn), who, fearing that he would be overthrown by one of his children, ate each one upon their birth. Yet, the artist gives the infant victim the proportions of an adult. Obviously Goya is conveying something else.

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5/04/2016 7:31 am  #6


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Your interpretation is correct.

 

5/04/2016 10:01 am  #7


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That thing hangs in the Prado, in Madrid, and I can assure you that it stops you in your tracks.
If memory serves, Goya actually painted it directly onto his wall, and it was transferred to canvas later.


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