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3/11/2015 7:58 am  #1


Hillary Clinton: A Pay-Phone Candidate in an iPhone World

I like this Ron Fournier piece this morning. I watched the Clinton press conference in real time yesterday and to be honest, thought she did a horrrrrrrrribbbbllllleeeee job of explaning herself. And that first question that Fournier references was such an obvious plant, that Clinton and her team should be embarrassed. 

I'm not so sure the Democrats should be going all in on Hillary.......

Hillary Rodham Clinton is an ancient presidential candidate. Not age-wise. Attitude-wise.

Staggered by self-inflicted wounds, the former secretary of State faced a choice between the right way and wrong way to manage a public-relations crisis in the post-Internet era, when the 1990s tactics of deflection, deception, and victimization are far less effective. She chose the wrong way.

Rather than be transparent, completely honest, and accountable, Clinton doubled down on the 1990s. She refused to turn over her emails stored on a secret service in violation of federal regulations. She defended contributions to her family's charity from foreign nations that discriminate against women and support terrorism, a brazen contradiction to her public profile.

...=14pxShe dodged legitimate accusations, parried accusations that were never in play, and coolly laid out a defense that you could boil down to five words: "Trust me, I'm a Clinton." Unfortunately for Democrats, the Clinton crisis-management operation is a pay phone in an iPhone world, stuck on the stale side of Bill Clinton's famous bridge to the 21st century. She fired up the way-back machine to ensure that the controversy gathers steam and long legs.

Clinton had a four-point response:

1. She decided to use her personal email account for both work and private business as a matter of convenience. "Looking back," she said, "it would have been better had I simply used a separate account."

That was as close as Clinton got to contrition, and even this talking point was misplaced. Nobody questions her right to use a personal account for work-related matters. Nobody seeks to make truly private emails public. The issue is Clinton's clear violation of federal regulations requiring her to store official emails on government servers. For reasons she left unsaid, Clinton went rogue.

A home-brewed server gives her full control of government records. Theoretically, she can delete or withhold public documents without the public ever knowing.

2. The "vast majority" of her emails went to government authorities, which means they would be captured by people who (unlike her) followed federal rules. Clinton didn't put a number to "vast majority" or characterize what material was contained in the "minority" of emails lost. Presumably, though, they're on the server she won't cough up.

3. After she left the State Department, House Republicans investigating the Benghazi attack discovered that they had none of her emails and notified State. The agency asked all former secretaries of State to turn over their emails. With her cache secured on an off-the-books server, Clinton decided which ones to turn over: only 30,490 of 62,320 emails, according to her office. More than 31,000 were deleted! It is irrelevant that Clinton says the notes are private. Those are our emails, not hers. A government archivist, not a Clinton, is suppose to decide what is private and what is public.

4. She took the "unprecedented step of asking the State Department to make my work-related emails public for everyone to see." Gee, thanks. We can see the emails you want us to see? 

The first question came from a Turkish reporter selected by Clinton's staff. Big surprise: He played the gender card for her, asking whether a man would face such protests. "I'll leave that to others," Clinton replied, happily feeding the phony narrative.

Her faux disclosure is akin to a divorced father losing custody of his four kids, kidnapping them, returning three, and patting himself on the back for turning over "the vast majority of my kids." He broke the law. Clinton broke the rules.

Clinton said she didn't delete any official emails, but won't turn over the server to prove it. She said she emailed no classified information (presumably even to her husband), but won't cough up the server to prove it. She said there were no security breaches, but won't produce the server to prove it.

Trust me, I'm a Clinton. This is part of a decades-old pattern: For all their strengths, Hillary and Bill Clinton have a weakness for victimization, entitlement, and their unbounded belief that the ends justify the means.

Rules are for little people, not them.

She had a choice—the right way or the wrong way, the new way or the old way. She chose to turn back the clock to the 1990s, when her husband's White House overcame its wrongdoing by denying the truth, blaming Republicans, and demonizing and bullying the media.

She unleashed the hounds of Whitewater. David Brock demanded a correction from The New York Times, which broke the email story. James Carville dismissed the charges as "right-wing talking points." A slightly less-worn henchman, Howard Dean, called one of my stories "trash." These retreads made Clinton look small.

The Times story was accurate. Fair-minded people across the spectrum criticized Clinton. And I reminded Dean in a Twitter exchange that a "trash" column is the dirty byproduct of trashy action.

In the 15 years since a Clinton sat in the Oval Office, the Internet overwhelmed the media "gatekeepers"—the few dozen priestly reporters and editors who determined what news, opinion, and gossip the public would hear about. Scandal-hardened Clinton aides worked the gatekeepers hard—lying, spinning, bullying, and deflecting attention to Republican reaction.

Today, there are 300 million people equipped to do their own reporting, writing, and publishing. You can't keep the truth from them. You can't bully them all or fool them all.

That is why transparency, authenticity, and accountability are sacred attributes of any modern leader. Whether you're running a church, a business, or a political party, leadership is now a no-B.S. zone.

Last edited by TheLagerLad (3/11/2015 7:59 am)


I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
 

3/11/2015 9:03 am  #2


Re: Hillary Clinton: A Pay-Phone Candidate in an iPhone World

Of all the issues that are important to me, this is not really a factor in why I probably won't vote for Clinton if she's the nominee. I'm not saying that it isn't important, I just see it as easily solvable. Make a rigid law that requires all gov. officials to use gov. e-mail that is preserved if there isn't one already, and subpeona the e-mails from the NSA. Unless you have to have a specific infraction that you're looking for in order to get a subpeona.


What's with the analogy of likening e-mails to kidnapped kids? I'm pretty sure that parents of kidnapped children are not thinking "damn, this is a lot like that e-mail controversy."

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3/11/2015 9:06 am  #3


Re: Hillary Clinton: A Pay-Phone Candidate in an iPhone World

This is a distraction from the borderline-treason letter the Repubs wrote to Iran.  They'll be screeching about this for some time.   It's a big nothing sandwich with slices of nothing in it.  Anyone over the age of 60 can relate how she didn't want to carry around different devices.  It's a generational thing.  She couldn't actually say that because then the heel-nippers would be shrieking about how OLD she is.   Look at the problems in the past with Colin Powell and missing Bush emails.  Technology isn't our generations greatest skill.

 

3/11/2015 11:46 am  #4


Re: Hillary Clinton: A Pay-Phone Candidate in an iPhone World

Hmmmmmm....it seems that Jeb Bush and Scott Walker have some shady email ''issues'' going on.

 

3/11/2015 11:59 am  #5


Re: Hillary Clinton: A Pay-Phone Candidate in an iPhone World

What's going on with those two?

 

3/11/2015 12:35 pm  #6


Re: Hillary Clinton: A Pay-Phone Candidate in an iPhone World

florentine wrote:

This is a distraction from the borderline-treason letter the Repubs wrote to Iran. They'll be screeching about this for some time. It's a big nothing sandwich with slices of nothing in it. Anyone over the age of 60 can relate how she didn't want to carry around different devices. It's a generational thing. She couldn't actually say that because then the heel-nippers would be shrieking about how OLD she is. Look at the problems in the past with Colin Powell and missing Bush emails. Technology isn't our generations greatest skill.

The issue, as I see it, isn't so much the e-mails. Well, it is as I don't think any public official should use private addresss for e-mail. It's bad on both an transparency and security levels.

I also have to smirk a little when on the one hand, Hillary's age means she's not so technologically adept as to manage multiple e-mail accounts yet on the other hand SHE RUNS HER OWN E-MAIL SERVER!

Add to that what Hillary just said two weeks agoat a tech conference in Silicon Valley:

Hillary Clinton says that what the country needs is less divisiveness. That said, when it comes to iPhone versus Android, her mind is made up.

“IPhone,” the former secretary of state said, answering the first question during an interview with Re/code’s Kara Swisher.

But, in full disclosure, Clinton said that she also carries around a BlackBerry, like most of Washington, D.C.

“I don’t throw anything away,” Clinton said, adding that she also has an iPad and an iPad mini. “I’m two steps short of a hoarder.”

I also find it extemely difficult to believe she simply deleted all of her personal e-mail. My in-box is as crowded as anyone's (5,600+ e-mails in my inbox alone) and yeah there's a lot in there that I need to keep. Sentimental stuff like e-mails from the kid, my wife, friends. Semi-important stuff like personal business transactions. I just can't believe Clinton when she says she simply deleted everything.

And it's not like I want to read her personal e-mails, or see anyone read them. I just want her to speak credibly. 

And this is why I agreed so much with the Fournier column.

Hillary is a smart and talented woman. She's as qualified as anyone to be President. She's a deft politician. But she needs to understand where the world is right now in terms of data, media, social media, and and information sharing. This isn't the era of Clinton vs. Matt Drudge or Clinton vs. Fox News. This is the era of politicians versus media empires, lowly bloggers, twitter, and Facebook. She needs to up her game and show some authenticity, even if it's ugly. 


 


I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
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3/11/2015 12:52 pm  #7


Re: Hillary Clinton: A Pay-Phone Candidate in an iPhone World

Well written Lager. In fact, much better said than Ron Fournier, in my humble opinion.

You got me beat with e-mail. Mine's 4,175. Now I don't feel so bad.

 

3/11/2015 12:59 pm  #8


Re: Hillary Clinton: A Pay-Phone Candidate in an iPhone World

Overall (even thought I thought it was dumb to do what she did) I look at this from my perspective as not an issue I will care about when it comes to picking the best person for President. I would say the same thing for a preson on the Republican side as well. That said, it COULD be something the general public will care about and we will have to wait and see on that one. I know there are people who would never want another BUSH or CLINTON in the White House and that for sure will be a factor. I just hope that when the time comes I am voting for the person that has the best chance of doing the best job for all Americans. 


 


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3/11/2015 1:05 pm  #9


Re: Hillary Clinton: A Pay-Phone Candidate in an iPhone World

Evidently both Walker and Bush had private accounts set up that they used while in office and both owned the servers.  Bush did not fully comply with state law that requires the Governor to turn over all records when they leave office.

It just a lot of shrieking and finger-pointing.  They are all trying to draw the attention away from themselves.  Many of them did it.

 

3/11/2015 1:19 pm  #10


Re: Hillary Clinton: A Pay-Phone Candidate in an iPhone World

Ah, I see. The old "look over there" routine. Doesn't surprise me.

 

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