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3/12/2016 1:22 pm  #41


Re: Trump rally in Chicago postponed amid growing security concerns

tennyson wrote:

Brady Bunch wrote:

tennyson wrote:

Is there really ANYONE here who did not see this coming ??

Nope, considering Trump's supporters don't seem to see the role he plays in this and Trump haters can't bring themselves to condemn the response back.

It is always the other person's fault, they can't see the role everyone is playing in this.

Then the next question then becomes do we think a corresponding thing will occur on the D-tribe side and IF NOT, WHY NOT ?  Something at least to ponder. 
 

My guess is something like that won't happen on the Dem side.  Unless I have missed it, there haven't been protesters at Bernie or Hillary rallies trying to disrupt the event and needing to be escorted out.  You would need that to happen in order for Bernie or Hillary to react and suggest violence against the protesters is ok.

 

3/12/2016 1:42 pm  #42


Re: Trump rally in Chicago postponed amid growing security concerns

Brady Bunch wrote:

tennyson wrote:

Brady Bunch wrote:

Nope, considering Trump's supporters don't seem to see the role he plays in this and Trump haters can't bring themselves to condemn the response back.

It is always the other person's fault, they can't see the role everyone is playing in this.

Then the next question then becomes do we think a corresponding thing will occur on the D-tribe side and IF NOT, WHY NOT ?  Something at least to ponder. 
 

My guess is something like that won't happen on the Dem side.  Unless I have missed it, there haven't been protesters at Bernie or Hillary rallies trying to disrupt the event and needing to be escorted out.  You would need that to happen in order for Bernie or Hillary to react and suggest violence against the protesters is ok.

Actually it DID happen to Bernie a number of times early in the cycle,
Something to ponder just why it did not stick and persist
. . 
Bernie Sanders event shut down by Black Lives Matter activists

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/bernie-sanders-event-shut-down-black-lives-matter-activists
 

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"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

3/12/2016 1:47 pm  #43


Re: Trump rally in Chicago postponed amid growing security concerns

Yes, I forgot about the BLM protesters at Sanders rallies earlier in the election cycle.  I don't think it stuck for several reasons, one it was early in the cycle and not many people were paying attention, it was before Sanders really started making a name for himself and for the fact that he let them shut down the rally and they weren't thrown out.

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3/12/2016 1:59 pm  #44


Re: Trump rally in Chicago postponed amid growing security concerns

Brady Bunch wrote:

Yes, I forgot about the BLM protesters at Sanders rallies earlier in the election cycle.  I don't think it stuck for several reasons, one it was early in the cycle and not many people were paying attention, it was before Sanders really started making a name for himself and for the fact that he let them shut down the rally and they weren't thrown out.

I think it is because there was NO REASON for the protests to stick as it turns out. Bernie was perceived as a person who had no civil rights background by some of the protesters but once his history with the civil rights movement was uncovered the protests pretty much disappeared.  Whereas on the Trump side it certainly has been a much easier case to be made (by many groups)


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

3/12/2016 3:05 pm  #45


Re: Trump rally in Chicago postponed amid growing security concerns

BLM is exhibit # 1 of how the politics of division and hate flows in many directions.

Politics follows Newton's Third Law of Motion; after years of BLM and agitiation by the Obama Justice Department we are now seeing an equal and opposite reaction in the rise of the GOP frontrunner.


Life is an Orthros.
 

3/12/2016 3:47 pm  #46


Re: Trump rally in Chicago postponed amid growing security concerns

Tarnation wrote:

BLM is exhibit # 1 of how the politics of division and hate flows in many directions.

Politics follows Newton's Third Law of Motion; after years of BLM and agitiation by the Obama Justice Department we are now seeing an equal and opposite reaction in the rise of the GOP frontrunner.

BLM was more a reaction to police actions (perceived or real). It crept into the political spectrum as the elections neared to force one side or the other to address it and embrace it. Unfortunately there are many aspects of the minority situation that need to be addressed that really eclipse the goals of BLM. 

Perhaps if your theory is correct we will see a return of the civil riots of the 60s especially IF we can whip up distrust and hatred on both sides. Went through that once. It was an ugly time for America. 


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

3/13/2016 8:36 am  #47


Re: Trump rally in Chicago postponed amid growing security concerns

Drumpf rallies have become something akin to Burning Man on meth with Hell's Angels providing security:

Solan Deb is a producer for CBS news who was arrested for resisting arrest even though there is news footage showing no such resistance.

Deb, a well-liked producer among his peers, has been traveling with the Trump campaign since last summer. He's what is known as a campaign "embed."
Deb is Indian. He has never been to the Middle East (or India for that matter). And yet, he has repeatedly been singled out at events.
At a rally in December, he tweeted, "A man came up to me to say 'Go back to Iraq!' I've never been!"
And in January, he tweeted, "A Trump supporter just asked me at Reno event if I was taking pictures for ISIS. When I looked shocked, he said, 'yeah, I'm talking to you.'"



Ahhhh, who can dislike those tolerant Drumpfies?

And then there's these reports:



https://news.yahoo.com/trump-rally-sparks-extraordinary-stretch-republican-race-072459528--election.html

https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-normal-campaign-rallies-where-chaos-expected-072347411--election.html

http://news.yahoo.com/secret-briefly-surrounds-trump-dayton-rally-183538461--election.html#


Donald Drumpf political rallies . . . Kind of like the circus coming to town with a large dose of intolerant marauders roving through the audience searching out people that 'don't belong'. A fun day for the whole family . . . if you're all real 'mericans'.

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3/13/2016 2:11 pm  #48


Re: Trump rally in Chicago postponed amid growing security concerns

And ... it is NOT going to get any better. 

 


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

3/13/2016 2:29 pm  #49


Re: Trump rally in Chicago postponed amid growing security concerns

Tarnation wrote:

BLM is exhibit # 1 of how the politics of division and hate flows in many directions.

Politics follows Newton's Third Law of Motion; after years of BLM and agitiation by the Obama Justice Department we are now seeing an equal and opposite reaction in the rise of the GOP frontrunner.

BLM was created out of the big lie: "Hands up don't shoot" It never happened but the fairy tale lives on!
The completely false narrative that police are the biggest threat to black males is fanned by people pushing a phony narrative across the nation.
Just look at the crime stats from the FBI. The biggest threat to a black male is another black male and that is an undisputed fact.
 


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

3/13/2016 2:45 pm  #50


Re: Trump rally in Chicago postponed amid growing security concerns

A question for all who are blaming Trump for what is happening at his campaign events.

If a bunch of Trump supporters or any republicans enter a Clinton or Sanders event and then interfere with the program and Clinton or Sander supporters react to that who's fault is it?

Trump events are being invaded by people who are there to try to cause disruptions and they have achieved that goal. If you are from the other side and what to come and listen that is great. But if you come and scream and yell, jump around with some sign to instigate trouble in the middle of 15,000 supporters. Then you are the one who is the problem. Trump supporters aren't causing problems at other candidates events. 

Supporters come to hear the candidate who has a 1st amendment right to speak!  That right is being infringed on by malcontents who want to stop freedom of speech!

This is going to spin out of control. Several people have been arrested for assault. If you oppose a candidate use peaceful protest out side of the event. Please don't interfere with the event.


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

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