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2/27/2016 8:38 pm  #1


Clinton Rolls in South Carolina!


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

2/28/2016 5:15 am  #2


Re: Clinton Rolls in South Carolina!

A very impressive win that changes the narrative of the race.


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

2/28/2016 12:06 pm  #3


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While I was pulling for Bernie, and I wish more South Carolinians would have felt the Bern, I think Bernie has already had a significant impact.  He has been calling for a 'political revolution' right from the start.  In the beginning he was a relative unknown, but look what has happened over the last 4 or 5 months.  He has been packing stadiums in spite of the corporate media doing their best to sweep him under the rug.

His message is getting through to many people anyway.  Sure, Clinton may end up with the nomination, but Bernie and his message won't die.  I think if you have been following the discourse on the D-tribe side, you would have noticed that Clinton is becoming more and more progressive recognizing there are plenty of voters out there who have been supporting Sanders and listening to what he has to say.

In some ways, win or lose, Bernie Sanders and his message has already made a difference, and in the end, the message may be more important than the man.

 

2/28/2016 12:08 pm  #4


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If Sanders brings things to the table that need to be there, and makes Clinton a better President, well, all I can say is, Well Done, Bernie! 


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2/28/2016 12:40 pm  #5


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This election is shaping up to be the worst possible matchup imaginable.  Trump vs. Clinton? Seriously??? I can't stand either one, but I would most likely vote for Trump in that situation, as the lesser of two evils.  I would certainly never vote for Hillary Clinton.  I may just leave the president selection on my ballot blank in November, if indeed we do have these two clowns as the nominees.

 

2/28/2016 2:00 pm  #6


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I'm fine voting for Clinton. I am quite clear-eyed in what she is and is not. But, Clinton's policy positions align pretty well with my own.
Trump's policy positions, when he even has one, are incredibly vague. His budget proposal blows up the deficit more than any other candidate besides Sanders, according to independent analysis. Besides, I think he's a fascist.


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2/28/2016 4:58 pm  #7


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Donald Trump may very well be a fascist.  While the whole idea of fascism might cause some to reject the whole concept, we must remember it was embraced by several nations until they woke up a bit too late.  Spain and Italy come to mind off the top of my dome, and there are several others.

I'm guessing the citizens of both countries cheered Franco and Mussolini when they came into power and as it turns out, facism was rather popular in the 1930's and 40's in many other countries.  All of those experiments in governing fizzled.  Maybe it's simply our turn to take a shot at it.

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    2/29/2016 12:47 pm  #8


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    I read a stat this morning. I think it was true. It said that 83% of black South Carolina voters picked Hillary. That meant even if not a single white voter chose Clinton, she still would have won the primary in the Palmetto state.

    That's pretty overwhelming. 

    For whatever reason, Bernie's message hasn't crossed over into the African-American community. Between that and the undemocratic super-delegate process in the Democratic party, I think Hillary will pretty much have the nomination wrapped up by the end of the day tomorrow.


    I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
     

    2/29/2016 1:21 pm  #9


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    I believe you are correct, Lager.
    Sanders stays in, but after tomorrow Clinton starts speaking strictly in general election mode.


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