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2/27/2016 10:36 am  #1


Residents Concerned with Spillover Gunfire

Battle zone at the border

Residents Concerned with Spillover Gunfire

http://www.krgv.com/story/31330035/residents-concerned-with-spillover-gunfire

NEAR RIO GRANDE CITY — A Starr County community said they are tired of gunfire spilling over from Mexico.

Border Patrol reported shots fired on Friday morning. At around 8:30 a.m., neighbors in Refugio, a small community by Rio Grande City, said a dead-end street was full of Border Patrol agents and Department of Public Safety officials.Resident Rene Garza said his community has learned to live with all the violence.Garza said he grew up in the border community. “Before we wouldn't see shootings,” he said. “Now, if you stand here at night, you will hear shootings.

It's normal.”Garza said many of his neighbors won’t talk about the illegal activity, because they fear retaliation. He said he’s tired of looking the other way.“It was around eight this morning, I heard it was from the other side,” Garza said about the shots he heard. “The army on the other side was shooting someone, and they crossed over.”Border Patrol was investigating the shooting by the river, not far from Garza’s home.A field outside of Garza’s house used to be his playground.

Now, he said it’s no man’s land."As soon as you step out in this field, you will have a Border Patrol watching us,” he said. “The more military, the more police, the more security they put here, well, they are going to get across. It’s a cat and mouse game. It is the way it is for them.”Garza said he is glad law enforcement officials patrol the area. However, he said he feels he’s on edge, lately.The area that separates El Refugio and the river is a thick, bushy terrain. It’s hard to patrol and easy for smugglers to hide in.

Border Patrol released this statement about the shooting:

"On Friday, at approximately 8:30 a.m. CST, Border Patrol Agents assigned to the Rio Grande City Station, reported being fired upon from the Mexican side of the Rio Grande near El Refugio, Texas. An agent returned fire using his service-issued weapon and retreated to a safer location. No injuries to a CBP employee were reported. No other agent fired their weapon. The Government of Mexico was notified of the incident. The Government of Mexico has not reported any injuries to anyone on the Mexican side of the river. No apprehensions were made. No contraband was found. The incident is currently under investigation by the Starr County Sheriff's Office."


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

2/27/2016 10:43 am  #2


Re: Residents Concerned with Spillover Gunfire

You mean, more guns aren't making people safer?

How can they tell the difference between "spillover" gunfire, and domestic gunfire?

I mean, we are talking about Texas.


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

2/27/2016 11:31 am  #3


Re: Residents Concerned with Spillover Gunfire

"Now you understand. Anything goes wrong, anything at all… your fault, my fault, nobody’s fault… it don’t matter…I’m gonna blow your head off. It’s as simple as that.” – John Wayne in  Big Jake (1971)

 

2/27/2016 1:01 pm  #4


Re: Residents Concerned with Spillover Gunfire

Goose wrote:

You mean, more guns aren't making people safer?

How can they tell the difference between "spillover" gunfire, and domestic gunfire?

I mean, we are talking about Texas.

How can you tell? Just ask the Border Patrol who came under fire from mexico. Simple!

"On Friday, at approximately 8:30 a.m. CST, Border Patrol Agents assigned to the Rio Grande City Station, reported being fired upon from the Mexican side of the Rio Grande near El Refugio, Texas. An agent returned fire using his service-issued weapon and retreated to a safer location. No injuries to a CBP employee were reported. No other agent fired their weapon. The Government of Mexico was notified of the incident. The Government of Mexico has not reported any injuries to anyone on the Mexican side of the river. No apprehensions were made. No contraband was found. The incident is currently under investigation by the Starr County Sheriff's Office."
 


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
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2/27/2016 1:05 pm  #5


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Rongone wrote:

"Now you understand. Anything goes wrong, anything at all… your fault, my fault, nobody’s fault… it don’t matter…I’m gonna blow your head off. It’s as simple as that.” – John Wayne in Big Jake (1971)

Big Jake is a good movie!

But a better one: [After shooting several of the bank-robbers and stopping their getaway car by shooting the driver, Inspector Callahan approaches the front steps of the bank. The bank robber that Callahan shot first, wounding him and forcing him to drop his shotgun, now makes an effort to retrieve it. He pauses as he sees Callahan approach, aiming his revolver.]
 Callahan: I know what you're thinking: "Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I've kinda lost track myself. But being this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya, punk?

 [The thief gives up trying to retrieve his shotgun; Callahan picks it up and starts to walk away.]Thief: Hey! [Callahan turns around] I gots to know!
 [Callahan aims his revolver and pulls the trigger, but the gun just clicks on an empty chamber, and he grins, laughs, and walks away.]


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
     Thread Starter
 

2/27/2016 1:15 pm  #6


Re: Residents Concerned with Spillover Gunfire

You do understand that the Dirty Harry movies were fiction?


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

2/27/2016 8:19 pm  #7


Re: Residents Concerned with Spillover Gunfire

Well, when the wall is built that Mexico is going to pay for we can all feel much safer that is for sure ! 


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

2/28/2016 6:17 am  #8


Re: Residents Concerned with Spillover Gunfire

Maybe if we worked with Mexico to have a safer region?
Instead of walling ourselves off from the world.


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

2/28/2016 8:41 am  #9


Re: Residents Concerned with Spillover Gunfire

The "Big Jake" and "Dirty Harry Callahan" personality traits have been taken up by these 'patriotic' vigilante groups (like the 'oath keepers') that are roaming around certain areas of the country, taking over public lands, acting as if they are entitled to interpret the law as they see fit, and attempt to enforce their version of those laws. They are armed and dangerous criminals and should be treated as such.

 

2/28/2016 9:12 am  #10


Re: Residents Concerned with Spillover Gunfire

Rongone wrote:

The "Big Jake" and "Dirty Harry Callahan" personality traits have been taken up by these 'patriotic' vigilante groups (like the 'oath keepers') that are roaming around certain areas of the country, taking over public lands, acting as if they are entitled to interpret the law as they see fit, and attempt to enforce their version of those laws. They are armed and dangerous criminals and should be treated as such.

True. There are just too many people in this country who see force as a first resort, and have absolutely zero empathy for those they share this land with.


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

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