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Sanders and Trump surprising the establishment wing of both parties in a Big way.
Trump, Sanders ride wave of voter frustration to big wins in New Hampshire
Republican Donald Trump and Democrat Bernie Sanders rode a wave of voter frustration with American politics to commanding victories in Tuesday's New Hampshire primaries, adding crucial credibility to their upstart candidacies.Sanders swept majorities of men, women, independents and young people in his win over Hillary Clinton, but faces challenges in the more diverse states that come next on the primary calendar. Trump, appealing to voters seeking a political outsider, could benefit from the persistent lack of clarity among the more mainstream Republicans struggling to challenge him."We are going to do something so good and so fast and so strong and the world is going to respect us again, believe me," Trump said at a victory rally.
Ohio Gov. John Kasich grabbed second in New Hampshire after pouring nearly all of his campaign resources into the state. Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio vied for third along with Ted Cruz, the Iowa caucus winner, ensuring all would press on to the next voting contest in South Carolina.
Sanders, at his own raucous rally, said his victory sent a message "that will echo from Wall Street to Washington, from Maine to California. And that is that the government of our great country belongs to all of the people and not just a handful of wealthy campaign contributors and their super PACs."The enthusiasm behind Trump, a real estate mogul who has never held political office, and Vermont Sen. Sanders, who says he is a democratic socialist, underscores the public's anger with the current political and economic system.
Even if neither candidate ultimately becomes his party's nominee, whoever wins that nomination will have to reckon with the voter frustration they've tapped into.Clinton appeared to recognize that reality in her concession speech, echoing Sanders' calls for taking on Wall Street banks and tackling income inequality. But she cast herself as more prepared to make good on her pledges."People have every right to be angry. But they're also hungry, they're hungry for solutions," she said after congratulating Sanders on his win.
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I'm not sure about Trump, but I think Bernie had this one sown up long ago. The next few weeks will be alot more telling about both of them.
Last edited by Just Fred (2/10/2016 10:41 am)
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So yeah, we're going to read a thousand articles about how New Hampshire was a shot across the bow of the "establishment". And certainly there are many similarities between Sanders and Trump. Both are populists. Both are favored by independents. Both feed off of anger. Trump's is a nationalist anger while Sanders is an economic anger.
We'll see how those two do down the road. I still see them as having huge hills to climb to a nomination.
I also wonder how much this anti-establishment anger spreads. Will we see an upswing in congressional primary challenges? How many incumbents lose their seats in the House and Senate this November? How many candidates latch on to the message Trump and Sanders are delivering versus maybe the more toned down message of a Hillary or a Kasich?
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Politico is reporting that Chris Christie is dropping out today.
It will be interesting to see who he endorses, if anyone. Jeb or Kasich would be the obvious choices.
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TheLagerLad wrote:
Politico is reporting that Chris Christie is dropping out today.
It will be interesting to see who he endorses, if anyone. Jeb or Kasich would be the obvious choices.
At one point in time I liked Christie, but his rhetoric in the current primaries personally really turned me off.
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tennyson wrote:
TheLagerLad wrote:
Politico is reporting that Chris Christie is dropping out today.
It will be interesting to see who he endorses, if anyone. Jeb or Kasich would be the obvious choices.
At one point in time I liked Christie, but his rhetoric in the current primaries personally really turned me off.
I'm actually the opposite. I liked him more and more throughout the primary. I thought he had a decent message. He came off as measured, patient, and fairly reasonable. I liked his line when Rubio and Cruz would start arguing about procedural amendments about how that wasn't applicable to the typical American voter.
I'll miss him. But I also think he has another campaign in him.