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2/09/2016 7:53 am  #1


Politics Ruins Everything

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Last edited by Goose (3/06/2016 7:41 am)


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

2/09/2016 8:08 am  #2


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Then there was that goofball Wisconsin sheriff who spends all his time on Fox News instead of actually sheriffing saying that Beyonce's halftime performance was anti-police and was somehow a tribute to the Black Panthers. 

Now apparently one of the songs Bey sung does have some tip of the cap lyrically to the Black Lives Matter movement. But I didn't see anything overtly controversial or demeaning to police officers.

But like the thread title suggests, politics really does ruin everything. 


I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
 

2/09/2016 8:25 am  #3


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As long as there are people who only look at things in terms of us vs them politically we will be in this swampland. 


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

2/11/2016 8:17 am  #4


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Goose wrote:

So true, Lager.

The politicalization of everything has really twisted us as a people.
Remember, it has reached the point where people mocked the President for becoming emotional while talking about murdered school children as he spoke, with their parents all around him. They just couldn't grant that he had a human emotion.
It has gotten so bad.

Maybe people have reason to question the Presidents true intention but because of his track record of false insertions across a wide range of issues. A President who uses kids to politicize an issue. But when you look at what he is stating it is not true. The cartoon was spot on! 
 


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

2/11/2016 9:13 am  #5


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Common Sense wrote:

Goose wrote:

So true, Lager.

The politicalization of everything has really twisted us as a people.
Remember, it has reached the point where people mocked the President for becoming emotional while talking about murdered school children as he spoke, with their parents all around him. They just couldn't grant that he had a human emotion.
It has gotten so bad.

Maybe people have reason to question the Presidents true intention but because of his track record of false insertions across a wide range of issues. A President who uses kids to politicize an issue. But when you look at what he is stating it is not true. The cartoon was spot on! 
 

Actually the Adam Lanza killing spree in Newton spoke volumes about what is wrong with America and its gun culture. I feel deeply the Presidents's emotion on this whole issue. To think he was "using the kids tragedy" is a telling tragedy itself about this issue. 

It further points out the title of the article that Politics does and has ruined everything. 
 

Last edited by tennyson (2/11/2016 9:14 am)


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

2/11/2016 10:14 am  #6


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tennyson wrote:

Common Sense wrote:

Goose wrote:

So true, Lager.

The politicalization of everything has really twisted us as a people.
Remember, it has reached the point where people mocked the President for becoming emotional while talking about murdered school children as he spoke, with their parents all around him. They just couldn't grant that he had a human emotion.
It has gotten so bad.

Maybe people have reason to question the Presidents true intention but because of his track record of false insertions across a wide range of issues. A President who uses kids to politicize an issue. But when you look at what he is stating it is not true. The cartoon was spot on! 
 

Actually the Adam Lanza killing spree in Newton spoke volumes about what is wrong with America and its gun culture. I feel deeply the Presidents's emotion on this whole issue. To think he was "using the kids tragedy" is a telling tragedy itself about this issue. 

It further points out the title of the article that Politics does and has ruined everything. 
 

Exactly Tennyson. Gabby Giffords nearly gets her head blown off, but to talk about it is "politicizing" it. 20 children are killed at point blank range, but to talk about it is "politicizing" it.

In short, we use "politics" to cut off conversation between one another. And that shows a major lack of maturity of the people who are supposed to be the adults in the room. 

It's a huge problem in the country. We need to do better.


I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
 

2/11/2016 11:19 am  #7


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Ditto, Lager and Tennyson.

 

2/11/2016 11:22 am  #8


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tennyson wrote:

Common Sense wrote:

Goose wrote:

So true, Lager.

The politicalization of everything has really twisted us as a people.
Remember, it has reached the point where people mocked the President for becoming emotional while talking about murdered school children as he spoke, with their parents all around him. They just couldn't grant that he had a human emotion.
It has gotten so bad.

Maybe people have reason to question the Presidents true intention but because of his track record of false insertions across a wide range of issues. A President who uses kids to politicize an issue. But when you look at what he is stating it is not true. The cartoon was spot on! 
 

Actually the Adam Lanza killing spree in Newton spoke volumes about what is wrong with America and its gun culture. I feel deeply the Presidents's emotion on this whole issue. To think he was "using the kids tragedy" is a telling tragedy itself about this issue. 

It further points out the title of the article that Politics does and has ruined everything. 
 

 He was using the kids! Right after the shooting he said.. pass this legislation and we will stop this from happening again.  It did not not pass in the Senate because nothing they were trying to pass would have stopped Sandy Hook! The push to pass phony legislation was being supported by the White House who decided to use the Sandy Hook family's. There is a big divide in the country because the President has made the choice not to be honest and address the true issues.


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

2/11/2016 12:15 pm  #9


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The mass shooting bait and switch. As he did in his speech on Tuesday, Obama last night repeatedly invoked mass shootings to justify policies that would not have prevented them. He presented "sensible background checks" as a way to make sure that families "don't have to go through what the families at Newtown or San Bernardino or Charleston went through." But in those and the other recent mass shootings—as the surprisingly skeptical moderator, Anderson Cooper, pointed out—"none of the guns were purchased from an unlicensed dealer." That means background checks were performed and demonstrably did not stop the shootings. Obama himself conceded that "the young man who killed those kids in Newtown, he didn't have a criminal record, and so we didn't know ahead of time, necessarily, that he was going to do something like that." Given this reality, offering background checks as a solution to mass shootings is patently dishonest.

https://reason.com/blog/2016/01/08/6-reasons-obama-is-untrustworthy-on-guns


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

2/11/2016 12:16 pm  #10


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The argument from emotion. As I noted on Wednesday, Obama's policy proposals are all about showing that his heart is in the right place, which is why he so easily shrugs off questions about whether they would actually work. The implication is that people who oppose his proposals simply do not care, or at least do not care enough. In his New York Times essay, he appeals to "the vast majority of responsible gun owners" who "support common-sense gun safety" because they "grieve with us after every mass shooting." You either grieve with us, or you're against us. If you feel bad about murdered children, you have no choice but to support Obama's gun control agenda. A CNN survey suggests that focusing on intentions rather than results can be an effective strategy: While "67% of those asked [said] they favor the changes" Obama unveiled this week, "57% of those polled also said that the measures would not be effective in reducing the number of people killed by guns."

https://reason.com/blog/2016/01/08/6-reasons-obama-is-untrustworthy-on-guns


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

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