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2/11/2016 8:15 am  #11


Re: Oregon militia leader Ammon Bundy, 7 others arrested after gunfight

Apparently, the last four 'occupiers' in Oregon are going to bite the bullet and end their protest debacle.

https://news.yahoo.com/occupiers-oregon-refuge-theyll-turn-themselves-063855170.html

Based upon the rhetoric by the occupiers as stated in this article, they sound like pretty reasonable people. Here are a couple examples:

David Fry said:
"You're going to hell. Kill me. Get it over with, We're innocent people camping at a public facility, and you're going to murder us."

"The only way we're leaving here is dead or without charges," And he also told the FBI to "get the hell out of Oregon."

Sean Anderson said:
"We're not surrendering, we're turning ourselves in. It's going against everything we believe in,"

Sandy Anderson said:
"They're threatening us. They're getting closer. I pray that there's a revolution if we die here tonight."

Sean Anderson said:
"We will not fire until fired upon. We haven't broken any laws, came here to recognize our constitutional rights."

I also understand that the reported 'prayer telephone call' they made was really a call to Papa Johns Pizza to see if they could get 4 large pies delivered because they were starving for some hot food. When the manager said they wouldn't deliver to their illegally occupied compound, they started begging for food.

Seriously though --

These people are delusional criminals that should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Any person or group that breaks the law and puts their perceived 'rights' above the actual rights of the majority of citizens, are dangerous to law abiding, peaceful Americans.

Last edited by Rongone (2/11/2016 8:16 am)

 

2/11/2016 8:21 am  #12


Re: Oregon militia leader Ammon Bundy, 7 others arrested after gunfight

Kudos to the local authorities and the FBI for their handling of a very difficult situation. They had the armchair
quarterbacks from both side telling them what they should do. Time for the justice system to make their judgements on all involved.


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

2/11/2016 8:55 am  #13


Re: Oregon militia leader Ammon Bundy, 7 others arrested after gunfight

The wacky thing in all of this is if you have read anything about it, had the ranchers been leasing the same amount of land for any other source for their herds, they would have been paying much, much more for the same amount of land being leased. 

 
 


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

2/11/2016 4:53 pm  #14


Re: Oregon militia leader Ammon Bundy, 7 others arrested after gunfight

Rongone wrote:

Apparently, the last four 'occupiers' in Oregon are going to bite the bullet and end their protest debacle.


These people are delusional criminals that should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Any person or group that breaks the law and puts their perceived 'rights' above the actual rights of the majority of citizens, are dangerous to law abiding, peaceful Americans.

Agreed. 

In total I believe 16 have been charged in relation to the current event. In addition Cliven Bundy has now also been leveled with charges going back to his 2014 incident at the Bundy ranch. There are many wacko militias in that area as well as spread across the United States. 
 


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

3/08/2016 4:03 pm  #15


Re: Oregon militia leader Ammon Bundy, 7 others arrested after gunfight

Good guy with gun beats bad guy with gun:


Police shot Oregon protester in back but act was 'justified': prosecutor

By Dan Whitcomb

(Reuters) - A slain leader of the armed occupation of a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon was killed by three gunshots fired into his back by police, a county prosecutor said on Tuesday, calling the shooting "justified and necessary."

Robert "LaVoy" Finicum was shot and killed by Oregon State Police on Jan. 26 after he ran from his pickup truck at a roadblock along a snow-covered roadside during the occupation by lands rights protesters at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

Relatives of Finicum, who was a spokesman for the group that seized buildings at the refuge, have previously said that he posed no threat to police during the confrontation and have rejected official assertions that he was armed at the time.

Speaking at a press conference in Bend, Oregon, Deschutes County Sheriff Shane Nelson said a loaded 9mm handgun was found in the pocket of Finicum's jacket following the shooting.

Malheur County District Attorney Dan Norris said eight shots were fired at Finicum during the confrontation, six of them by Oregon State Police officers and two by FBI agents.

An autopsy found that three of the bullets fired by Oregon State Police officers struck Finicum in the base of the neck, shoulder and lower back and led to his death, Norris said.

"The six shots fired by the Oregon State Police were justified and in fact necessary," Norris said.

During the press conference, officials played video and audio tapes of the confrontation, during which Finicum can be heard telling law enforcement officers: "Go ahead, put the bullet through me. I don’t care. I’m going to meet the sheriff. You do as you damn well please.”

At another point he is heard to say: "If you want a blood bath, it's on your hands."

The videotape had been released previously but was synched with audio from inside the pickup truck and played in slow motion at times to show what law enforcement officials said was Finicum reaching for his weapon immediately before he was shot.


The U.S. Department of Justice said in a statement that its inspector general's office was investigating the actions of the FBI's Hostage Rescue Team in the Finicum shooting.
The takeover, which began on Jan. 2 with at least a dozen armed men, was sparked by the return to prison of two Oregon ranchers convicted of setting fires that spread to federal property in the vicinity of the refuge.

It also marked the latest flare-up in the so-called Sagebrush Rebellion, a decades-old conflict over federal control of millions of acres in the West.

The leaders of the standoff, Ammon and Ryan Bundy, were arrested at the same traffic stop at which Finicum was slain.

The final four holdouts were taken into custody on Feb. 17, ending the 41-day standoff. At least 16 people have been charged with conspiracy to impede federal officers in connection with the occupation.

 

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