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1/29/2016 9:02 am  #21


Re: Looks Like the Trumpster Might Bail Out of the Debate

Trump doesn't attend the debate, but he still manages to dominate traditional and social media coverage. Amazing. And f*cking terrifying.


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1/29/2016 9:04 am  #22


Re: Looks Like the Trumpster Might Bail Out of the Debate

I agree Doug. It is terrifying. This morning all the new shows were carrying on about how brilliant Donald Trump is. What am I missing? He's a carnival barker.


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

1/29/2016 9:11 am  #23


Re: Looks Like the Trumpster Might Bail Out of the Debate

Personally I find Trump boring. No substance. Unfortunately I can say pretty much the same thing about the actual Fox debate which I did watch (or at least TRIED TO). 

At least the Fox debate was not just primarily insults although it was not devoid of them. Again becoming more the normal in political debates. 


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

1/29/2016 9:46 am  #24


Re: Looks Like the Trumpster Might Bail Out of the Debate

I think Bush had his best debate and Cruz was the target of many.

Paul and Christie both had a good night.

Was trump hurt by not attending? Not one bit! Time will tell but I think it actually help him.
Cruz was hammered and Trump did not have to lift a finger for it to happen. Trump seems to be pulling ahead in the Iowa polls. The big question? Will people turn-out to vote (caucus) for him?


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

1/29/2016 9:55 am  #25


Re: Looks Like the Trumpster Might Bail Out of the Debate

Eventually trump will need to make peace with the party.
Last nite did not help. Sure, it delighted his fans. But at some point, you have to go beyond the tactic of just giving the finger to folks.


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

1/29/2016 10:03 am  #26


Re: Looks Like the Trumpster Might Bail Out of the Debate

The voters are telling the "party" we don't like what you are doing in Washington.
Trump is voicing that displeasure and it is resonating strongly with voters across the country.

 


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

1/29/2016 10:05 am  #27


Re: Looks Like the Trumpster Might Bail Out of the Debate

These 'debates' are a joke. A bunch of people spouting tested canned stump speeches and trying to zing one another. After the show, all the staffers mingle with the media to re-explain what their candidate meant to say by 'clarifying' their remarks. What inevitably follows are a bunch of talking heads trying to determine their opinion of who 'won' the 'debate'. The newspapers and online blogs the next morning blast headlines like Best One Liners from the Debate.

If that what is important to determine who the next president should be, I'm voting for Jerry Seinfeld.

 

1/29/2016 10:06 am  #28


Re: Looks Like the Trumpster Might Bail Out of the Debate

Actually, about 68 % of those in the party in places like New Hampshire don't support Trump.
This is what I mean about him needing to broaden his appeal.

Bluster, anger, and insults have gotten him far. But trump needs a second act


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

1/29/2016 11:29 am  #29


Re: Looks Like the Trumpster Might Bail Out of the Debate

I watched the whole thing while knocking back some Nugget Nectars.

To be honest, I thought it was the best of the GOP debates, but was still lacking in a lot of areas.

For one thing, key questions only got one response. Two glaring examples were a question about crime and race relations and only Rand Paul was able to give a response before they cut to commercial. And the lone health care question only got a single response from Cruz. The first half dozen questions were more GOP party related and Donald Trump related than policy questions. 

On the flip side, using fairly recent video clips of Rubio's and Cruz's past positions on immigration was strong. I'd like to think the ghost of Tim Russert was giving a thumbs-up to that segment of the debate. It made both Cruz and Rubio look bad and as they were the only two candidates Fox did that to. 

And so here is my conspiracy theory: Someone at Fox leaked to the Trump campaign that the moderators were going to pull out old video on the candidates and Trump knew that would go badly for him. That's why he backed out at the last minute.

Anyway, my no-nothing-know-it-all grading of the candidates:

Bush: His best performance yet. It was like without Trump there, he was free to be himself. A+

Christie: Pretty good. Nothing earth shattering. Mods went light on him I thought. Positioned himself well as an outsider B+

Rubio: Too spastic, too loud, but held his own against Cruz and the others. Love his "everyone else is a RINO" poke at Cruz. Didn't like his shameless pandering to evangelicals. B

Cruz: He was the center of attention and held up pretty well under the spotlight. He's such a huckster though. That said, if you asked me to put money down on who wins Iowa, I'd have to put it on Cruz. B-

Kasich: He was ok. Was the rational voice on the bunch. But thought he came up weak considering all the extra time he had to speak. C

Paul: Meh. They only asked him about questions that were in his wheelhouse. Privacy. Civil rights. Isolationist foreign policy. Fox was quietly showing him the door. D+

Carson: I don't get how this guy is still in the race. F-


I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
 

1/29/2016 12:37 pm  #30


Re: Looks Like the Trumpster Might Bail Out of the Debate

Perhaps surprisingly, 2 million more viewers watched the debate last night compared to the Jan 15th debate, which included Trump.


I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
 

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