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1/14/2016 5:55 am  #1


The Crisis That Wasn't

Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio barely had time to feign outrage and accuse the President of being weak before it was over, and the sailors and their boats were returning home. Oh well.


Iran’s Swift Release of U.S. Sailors Hailed as a Sign of Warmer Relations

WASHINGTON — A crisis over the seizing of two American patrol boats in the Persian Gulf was averted Wednesday when Iran returned the craft and released their crews as Pentagon officials struggled to explain how the boats had ended up near a major Iranian naval base.

Their quick release was hailed by the Obama administration as an unintended benefit of the new diplomatic relationship with Iran established by the nuclear accord negotiated between Tehran and the United States and five other nations in July. The accord is expected to go into effect next week, ending the oil and financial sanctions imposed on Iran over the past decade, and giving it access to around $100 billion in frozen funds.

Thanking the Iranians for their cooperation, Secretary of State John Kerry said Wednesday that “we can all imagine how a similar situation might have played out three or four years ago.”

Mr. Kerry negotiated the release in at least five phone calls with Mohammad Javad Zarif, the Iranian foreign minister. Senior American officials described the American-educated Mr. Zarif as clearly worried that the episode could sink the nuclear accord on which he and President Hassan Rouhani have staked their legacies.

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The quick release of the sailors was in sharp contrast to an episode almost nine years ago, involving Britain, that turned into a major international standoff.

In March 2007, as the United Nations was just beginning sanctions against Iran, 15 British marines were arrested by the Revolutionary Guards Navy, which accused them of entering Iranian waters. The marines were held for 13 days before the government of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, then the Iranian president, set them free during a televised farewell ceremony in which they were given new suits and carpets as parting gifts.

A prominent conservative Iranian analyst with ties to the senior leadership emphasized that in the current episode, both sides had sought to keep tensions low.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/14/world/middleeast/iran-navy-crew-release.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

1/14/2016 9:16 am  #2


Re: The Crisis That Wasn't

Feign outrage is correct --- but THAT is POLITICS (at its worst !) 


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

1/14/2016 10:40 am  #3


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Well, there has to be a way to spin this so we can get involved in another war.  Where's John McCain on this one?

 

1/14/2016 10:46 am  #4


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Just Fred wrote:

Well, there has to be a way to spin this so we can get involved in another war.  Where's John McCain on this one?

Funny you should ask.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/john-mccain-obama-iran-217748

John is outraged that the Obama administration managed to get these sailors safely released without firing a shot, in less than a day.
The incompetence!

Maybe we should give them back to Iran so that we can do some bombing.
 


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1/14/2016 11:55 am  #5


Re: The Crisis That Wasn't

And now, for a fair and balanced perspective, I give you:

https://youtu.be/3EXYGmJNY_Y


In other words another example of the Obama administration's failure in diplomatic negotiations, lack of understanding of international affairs, and weakening of our armed forces.

Notwithstanding that we got the sailors and the boats back without anybody getting killed and nary a shot fired.

Fox 'news' . . . We never let facts get in the way of our agenda.

 

1/14/2016 12:23 pm  #6


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No shortage of phony outrage on the right.


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1/14/2016 4:42 pm  #7


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John McCain ................ right on cue.

 

1/15/2016 10:02 am  #8


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There were a 150 billion reasons to let them go!  And on top of that they will end up with a nuclear weapon.

A propaganda coup for Iran. US sailors on their knees with their hands on their heads shown across the middle east. And the best a US sailor apologizing while be filmed.


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

1/15/2016 10:05 am  #9


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Common Sense wrote:

There were a 150 billion reasons to let them go!  And on top of that they will end up with a nuclear weapon.

A propaganda coup for Iran. US sailors on their knees with their hands on their heads shown across the middle east. And the best a US sailor apologizing while be filmed.

Guess that they shouldn't have violated Iranian territorial waters.
If two Iranian guns boats had sailed into the Chesapeake bay, we wouldn't have given them milk and cookies. We would have taken them into custody.

Thank goodness they were released,,, in less than a day.

BTW, how is this any kind of coup?
How does it change the dynamic in the region in any way?


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1/15/2016 10:30 am  #10


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Here's the topper on this one, too: 

Donald Trump sent out some kind of message demanding the sailors be released ............................... hours after they were released.

 

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