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12/15/2015 6:03 am  #1


As Health Care Act Insurance Deadline Nears

As Health Care Act Insurance Deadline Nears, ‘Unprecedented Demand’

WASHINGTON — Milwaukee, Detroit and Philadelphia have done the best among 20 cities competing to sign up people for health insurance under the Affordable Care Act, while Dallas, Denver and Las Vegas are lagging, the White House said Monday ahead of Tuesday’s deadline to enroll for coverage that takes effect on Jan. 1.

A surge of callers temporarily overwhelmed the government’s capacity to enroll consumers on Monday, prompting officials to record telephone numbers so they could return calls later to arrange for coverage.

Federal officials said that people stuck waiting would be given a brief special enrollment period so they could complete their applications and select health plans after Dec. 15, but still get coverage in January.

“We are seeing unprecedented demand,” said Lori Lodes, a spokeswoman for the Department of Health and Human Services, which runs the federal insurance marketplace.

But successes do vary. In early November, President Obama challenged 20 communities around the country to compete with one another in signing up people who were uninsured. The places were chosen because they had large numbers of uninsured residents or because people lacking coverage accounted for a large share of the population.

A scoreboard prepared by the White House says that Milwaukee — with a Democratic mayor who strongly supports the health law — has made the most progress, followed by Detroit, Philadelphia, Chicago, Charlotte, N.C., and Atlanta. Oakland, Calif., Nashville, Tampa, Fla., and Salt Lake City were also in the top 10.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/15/us/politics/as-health-care-act-insurance-deadline-nears-unprecedented-demand.html?ref=us


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12/15/2015 8:02 am  #2


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Unprecedented Demand? Not sure what that means? Just asking or actually signing up for the coverage?

Considering that close to half of the Obamacare Co-ops have failed costing tax payers about 1.1 billion.

Ten of the 23 health insurance co-ops created under Obamacare have gone out of business, and experts say more will follow.Utah’s Arches is the latest co-op to fail, along with others in Kentucky, New York, Nevada, Louisiana, Oregon, Colorado, Tennessee, South Carolina and a co-op that served both Iowa and Nebraska.
 

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 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

12/15/2015 8:14 am  #3


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Unprecedented means without precedent.
These are numbers that haven't been seen before. The ACA isn't going away. Especially as no credible alternative has been proposed


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12/15/2015 9:04 am  #4


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I am well aware of the fact that conservative media outlets have been quick to pile on and label Obamacare as a failure when one of the state originated co-ops fails and claim the reason is the overall failure of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (I know, it's easier, catchier, and more politically powerful to call it 'Obamacare' . . . Makes it easier to place blame). But, you have to delve a little deeper than the emotional headlines and sound bites to figure out what's going on here.

Let's take a look at the one Kentucky co-op that failed.

The failure of a non-profit insurance company, created and shored up with Obamacare money, has given Republicans an opportunity to put the reform law in a negative light. But here’s a fact you probably haven’t heard: Republicans were partly to blame for the failure of the Kentucky Health Cooperative, and may have been the proximate cause.

The co-op, one of 22 created under the law, was very much one of those insurers. It was expecting $77 million from the feds this year and got only $9.7 million. It had greatly underestimated the claims it would have to pay, and lost $50 million last year. In the first half of this year, its losses were only $4 million, but the die had been cast.

“The federal rescue helicopters never arrived because Republicans in Congress defeated the White House in budget negotiations and thus reduced spending on the co-op program to $2.4 billion from $10 billion,” The Wall Street Journal said in an editorial.

The U.S. Senate, under the leadership of Mitch McConnell, severely cut the earlier approved caps on healthcare spending. Mitch took some of that designated healthcare spending and shifted it to promotion and underwriting some fracking operations. This tells me Mr. McConnell is more interested in cutting breaks for his re-election benefactors that the general health of the Kentucky constituents he represents.

Many state regulated insurance co-ops that have established as offshoots of the large insurance companies are organized as not for profit business entities to take advantage of tax breaks while still qualifying for federal subsidies under ACA. Unfortunately, due to poor management that led to low enrollment in certain neophyte co-ops, and a higher than anticipated claims rates for the newly enrolled customers, coupled with the drastically reduced federal subsidies engineered by the federal senate and house, resulted in the demise of some state insurance co-ops.

Now, those enrolled in those failed co-ops have to go elsewhere to secure their healthcare insurance. Where do they go? Well, they go to another state co-op in the exchange or a federal insurance program if no state program exists. So, it kind of works out like that exalted  American economic mainstay called free enterprise, or let the market decide, or comparative advantage. The weak, poorly managed state insurance cooperatives will succumb to market pressures while the stronger well managed companies will survive and provide for their customers. Isn't that the way capitalism is supposed to work?

Wouldn't it be nice if elected officials would work together in a positive manner, for the overall good of the citizens, rather than constantly turning the screws on their opponents for their own political advantage?

 

12/15/2015 9:25 am  #5


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Here is a good report detailing the issues of the failed co-ops:

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/fund-reports/2015/dec/why-are-co-ops-failing

There is a link at the bottom of this article to the full report

 

12/15/2015 10:19 am  #6


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Brady Bunch wrote:

Here is a good report detailing the issues of the failed co-ops:

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/fund-reports/2015/dec/why-are-co-ops-failing

There is a link at the bottom of this article to the full report

 

Informative and comprehensive report.

 

12/15/2015 10:44 am  #7


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Just read the executive summary, and will look at the rest tonight.
Thanks Brady


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12/16/2015 7:38 am  #8


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If there is Unprecedented Demand?
Half of the exchanges should not be failing?


 “We hold these truths to be self-evident,”  former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”

 
 

12/16/2015 8:13 am  #9


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Looks like you are with me, Common .................. get rid of the for-profit insurance industry and move to a medicare-for-all system of health insurance.

 

12/16/2015 8:42 am  #10


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Common Sense wrote:

If there is Unprecedented Demand?
Half of the exchanges should not be failing?

 
Not necessarily.
You'd have to examine why they are failing to determine that.


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