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Intelligence report commissioned by White House says ISIS not containe
Intelligence report commissioned by White House says ISIS not contained
A new intelligence report commissioned by the White House says that the ISIS terror group will grow in numbers and territory unless it suffers significant losses in Iraq and Syria.
The findings sharply contradict previous statements by President Obama and other White House officials that ISIS has been "contained" by a program of U.S.-led airstrikes and the deployment of approximately 3,500 U.S. forces to train and otherwise aid moderate Syrian rebels and Kurdish fighters.
On Sunday, a U.S. official told Fox News that ISIS has been able to effectively recruit and attract affiliates despite losses on the ground, and has now supplanted Al Qaeda as the primary global jihadist threat.The official said that going forward, the entirety of the ISIS threat must be addressed, and the group's main base of operations in Syria must be “degraded.”The findings were first reported by The Daily Beast, which said the White House asked for the assessment prior to the Nov. 13 attacks in Paris, in which ISIS militants killed 130 people in a series of coordinated shootings and suicide bombings. In response to the report, The Daily Beast said President Obama had directed Defense Secretary Ash Carter and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joseph Dunford to come up with new strategies against ISIS.
One recommendation, announced by Carter Tuesday, is a special operations cell with the ability to capture senior ISIS leaders in the hope of finding out more about their networks.However, the Daily Beast reported that Carter's announcement took military planners by surprise, since they had yet to finalize important details, including the rules of engagement under which such raids would be carried out.
The eight-page report was compiled by a team of analysts from the CIA, NSA, and other agencies, the website reported. "This intel report didn't tell us anything we didn't already know," an official told The Daily Beast. "It was lots of great charts showing countries highlighted across the globe, with some groups having pledged allegiance to ISIS and others leaning towards it." The report also described how the terrorist group with aspirations of founding an extremist Islamic caliphate already has a network of groups that have pledged allegiance or are vying for membership in a dozen countries.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident,” former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”
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Yes, I think that ISIS needs to be defeated in Syria and Iraq in order to decrease the global threat.
I am on record stating what I would do to accomplish that.
What would you recommend doing, CS, and which candidate has articulated a plan which you think is realistic and would accomplish the goal?
We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists.
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I think the President articulated that strategy (defeating ISIS in Syria & Iraq with the involvement of coalition partners in the area and around the world) in his speech last night.
You don't need Fox 'news' perverse slanted biases injected into an anti Obama hit piece to understand the position.
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Rongone wrote:
I think the President articulated that strategy (defeating ISIS in Syria & Iraq with the involvement of coalition partners in the area and around the world) in his speech last night.
You don't need Fox 'news' perverse slanted biases injected into an anti Obama hit piece to understand the position.
Great strategy...... President Barack Obama told ABC that ISIS is not gaining strength and that “we have contained them.” And when he said they were the JV team?
Then the Paris attacks,
"There will be setbacks and there will be successes. The terrible events in Paris were obviously a terrible and sickening setback," Obama said.
Fox News does not have to do anything but report the administrations grand strategy!
“We hold these truths to be self-evident,” former vice president Biden said during a campaign event in Texas on Monday. "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”
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What would you suggest,,,,,
Besides blaming the president
We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists.
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The President has said some things in regard to ISIS that have made the general public very skeptical that he has a handle on ISIS.
Calling them the "JV" team now looks really bad. Saying the day before the Paris attack they were "contained", even if he was talking about the spread of their land control, makes him look bad. And then having an interview released on the same day of the San Bernardino attacks where he basically says ISIS isn't here and we don't need to worry looks bad.
He has a long way to go to have the American people trust and believe he can handle this.
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What candidate has proposed a plan you could accept? I don't want to hear about Obama's statements to ABC or how George Bush opened the door to the rise of ISIS by the dumbass invasion of Iraq. I want to know which potential candidate speaks to you here and now.
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I haven't had the time to review all the plans from all the candidates, and frankly that is not what I was speaking to.
My point was the President has no engendered any confidence in the majority of American people when it comes to his handling of ISIS.
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I haven't had the time to review all the plans from all the candidates, and frankly that is not what I was speaking to.
My point was the President has no engendered any confidence in the majority of American people when it comes to his handling of ISIS.
You know, I agree. Maybe the President is right, but he did not convey the sense of urgency that I wanted to see.
Having said that, I'm not seeing much in the way of good ideas from anybody else.
I'm frustrated.
We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists.
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Not one of the current crop of presidential candidates has proposed a detailed outline of their plan to defeat ISIS. Suggesting that we carpet bomb them into oblivion, or somehow prevent Muslims from entering the country are not a viable strategies. Since they all lack the ability nor the authority to devise a reasonable plan, they resort to the reactive strategy of criticizing existing plans. As long as one has no responsibility for devising and implementing a military and political strategy to solve the problem, criticism is the easy way out.