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9/06/2015 7:33 am  #1


This is Close to the Definition of Chutzpah

Conservative Defenders of Clerk Kim Davis are trying a rather audacious tactic. They are lamenting that Davi's actions are comparable to the civil rights movement. Let's ignore the delicious irony that conservatives opposed the civil rights movement for a moment  and read on.





Conservative Pundits Invoke Civil Rights Icons To Defend Anti-LGBT County Clerk Kim Davis
Research September 5, 2015 12:17 AM EDT ››› KATIE SULLIVAN


Several right-wing pundits are invoking the Civil Rights movement as they rally to the defense of Kentucky county clerk Kim Davis, whose refusal to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples despite a federal court order resulted in her being arrested and held in contempt.

Conservative Pundits Compare Kim Davis' Anti-LGBT Battle To The Civil Rights Movement

Fox's Erick Erickson Predicts Civil War: "We Have Moved Beyond A Nation Of Laws." In a September 4 op-ed published by IJReview, Fox News contributor Erick Erickson defended Rowan County, Kentucky clerk Kim Davis' refusal to issue marriage licenses, and attacked the United States Supreme Court for ruling in favor of marriage equality for gay and lesbian couples. Erickson lamented that America had "moved beyond a nation of laws" in the wake of the Supreme Court's decision and wondered "how much longer until we have another civil war?":

When all these things happen, we have moved beyond a nation of laws to a nation of men. When we have a nation of men, power is everything, policy is fleeting, and laws are meaningless. People with enough money can get preferential treatment. The more powerful a person is, the more he can escape punishment. Eventually, some men can decide to grab power by any means necessary and, without laws that can withstand the sway of men, get a pass at unconstitutional means used to grab power. The constitution becomes a worthless relic.

At that point, the citizens will clash beyond the ballot box. We see that beginning with random killings of police and random killings by police. It will only get worse. No one should want it and no one, myself included, does want it. But how much longer until we have another civil war?

Our nation's leaders have excelled at nothing so much as dividing and pitting American against American. When the President of the United States tells supporters that Republicans are the enemy and they should take guns to knife fights, we should not be surprised when they take him seriously. Besides, who will punish them? They perceive themselves to be on the winning team.

How much longer before the cold war of citizenry fed and flamed by Washington turns hot? [Media Matters, 9/4/15]

Right-Wing Radio Host Steve Deace Compares Davis To Rosa Parks. On September 2, conservative Iowa radio host Steve Deace tweeted a comparison between civil rights icon Rosa Parks, who refused to give up her seat on a segregated bus, and Kim Davis' refusal to issue marriage licenses:



Fox's Todd Starnes: The Judge Who Ordered Davis To Jail Did "With The Gavel What Bull Connor Tried To Do With Dogs And Fire Hoses."


http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/09/05/conservative-pundits-invoke-civil-rights-icons/205401


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

9/06/2015 7:40 am  #2


Re: This is Close to the Definition of Chutzpah

Some GOP presidential candidates have jumped in as well.

Ted Cruz, senator from Texas and Republican presidential candidate said this:


“Today, judicial lawlessness crossed into judicial tyranny, Today, for the first time ever, the government arrested a Christian woman for living according to her faith. . . . I stand with Kim Davis. Unequivocally.”


Tyranny? Our system of government gives the Supreme Court final say over constitutional matters, and, though Cruz doesn’t like it, the court ordered states to recognize same-sex marriages. In fact, the high court specifically declined to give relief to Davis, and the federal judge who ordered her jailed for contempt of court is a George W. Bush appointee and son of a former Republican senator.

Now Cruz, who took an oath of office to “support and defend the Constitution,” wants people to defy the Supreme Court’s authority? Who is the lawless one?

Cruz isn’t the only Republican candidate seeking the nation’s highest office while encouraging people to ignore its laws. Mike Huckabee declared: “I thank God for Kim Davis, and I hope more Americans will stand with her.”

Bobby Jindal, too, supported Davis, and Sen. Rand Paul  called her jailing “absurd” and said stands such as Davis’s are “an important part of the American way.” Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker said that “you have the freedom to practice religious beliefs out there. It’s a fundamental right.”

True. And there’s a proud American tradition of defying unjust laws with civil disobedience. But nobody is denying Davis freedom to believe what she wishes; she’s merely being ordered to do what she swore to do: “faithfully execute the duties of my office without favor.”.


If you want to start casting people as characters who lived in the civil rights era, Fine. But let me suggest this. Kim Davis refused to execute the duties of her office without favor in defiance of  a court order to do so.
That refusal doesn’t make her Martin Luther King Jr.
It makes her George Wallace.


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9/06/2015 9:56 am  #3


Re: This is Close to the Definition of Chutzpah

The history these people are quoting is not the same history I studied in h. s. and college and, being old enough to have lived thru some of what they discuss, their "history" is far removed from my memories which are still vivid in some instances.

 

9/06/2015 6:28 pm  #4


Re: This is Close to the Definition of Chutzpah

Further irony in that the LGBTQ lobby has been invoking the civil rights movement for at least the past decade.


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9/06/2015 7:02 pm  #5


Re: This is Close to the Definition of Chutzpah

Well, if you want to go back to that era,,,,,,,,,
Woolworth won't seat blacks at their lunch counter.
Bakeries won't serve gays,,,,,

Clerk won't allow blacks to register to vote.
Clerk won't let Gays get a marriage license.,,,,,,

If everyone wants to imagine themselves as someone from that era, I just don't see Ms Davis as MLK.
Just sayin' 


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