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7/08/2015 4:25 am  #1


Feeling Victimmy

Fox News anchor: I didn't know it was criminal to be a Christian


Gretchen Carlson

Editor's note: The following is an excerpt from Gretchen Carlson's new book, "Getting Real." 
It was while doing "Fox & Friends" that I got a reputation for being a culture warrior. Bill O'Reilly started inviting me to come  on "The O'Reilly Factor"  for a regular culture warrior segment. I really cared  about this  stuff.  Fox was the first place I'd worked where it was okay to talk openly about your faith on the  air.  Of course, I understand that when you're doing news reporting and  anchoring, it's not appropriate. But at Fox I had  a different kind  of forum, so I went  for it.

Where our culture is headed is an enduring topic of interest for many people, and I think they  appreciate it that I take the topic on -- even  when they don't agree with  me. For example, I've re­ceived plenty of flak for talking about the war on Christmas, often being described as "freaking out" and "going ballistic," as if I were some demented Christian warrior. One website  published this pearl: "If Bill O'Reilly is the  commander-in-chief of the  War on Christmas, Gretchen Carlson is the head of the women's auxiliary." The thing  is, it's not  a joke to me.  I can't think of a single other religion whose holy day is treated like a joke.

It all came to a head  over the Festivus controversy. Festivus is a fake  holiday, invented by the  hit  show "Seinfeld" in 1997. It was  a funny bit on the comedy, and I laughed along with  the rest of the world. But  then it got  real. Some  people subsequently began to celebrate the holiday as an alternative to the Christian celebration, and one of them  wrote a book  called "Festivus: The Holiday for the Rest of Us."

I was asking a question that needed to be asked: Do we think so little of our religious symbols and rituals that we would give equal weight to a beer can sculpture based on an old sitcom? I still think it’s a good question.

In 2008, when  I heard  that  a group was petitioning the governor of Washington State to erect  a Festivus pole as part of the  Christ­mas  display, I thought it was the stupidest thing I'd ever  heard. When I brought it up on "Fox & Friends," Steve and  Brian  tried  to laugh it off as silly, but I was dead serious. I thought it was mocking Christianity, and  I said so. (And by the way, a lot of people think  that  on Fox we have producers  talking to us through our earpieces telling us what to say. We don’t. That protest was all me.) “I can’t believe you guys are defending this,” I said to my laughing colleagues. “I’m all for humor, and I’m all for telling jokes, but this is an insult to Christianity.” I said I thought it was an outrage that my kids would  have to grow up in a culture that  forced them to grope their way past a Festivus pole to see a Nativity scene—on Christmas!

Festivus  just wouldn’t  die. The worst  episode  came  in 2013, when  a group  erected  a Festivus pole that  consisted  of six feet of beer cans next to a religious display that included a Nativity  scene, a menorah, and other religious symbols at the Florida state capitol. Again I spoke  out, appealing  very straightforwardly to American values and common  sense. I was asking a question  that  needed to be asked: Do we think so little of our religious symbols and rituals that  we would  give equal weight to a beer can sculpture  based on an old sitcom? I still think it’s a good question.

I was gratified when the American Spectator magazine published an article by Jeffrey Lord  titled  “Gretchen Carlson Is Right.” Lord wrote,  “Ms. Carlson’s  outrage  was right on target. She is exactly right to look into the cameras and call for a stand-alone display of that  crèche. She understands perfectly what  it represents, and that without the reverence and respect of those values we are all in serious trouble.” Amen!

My reputation as a culture warrior was one reason I got a role in the movie "Persecuted," which was released in 2014. The film is a thriller  that focuses on two rights in America that are sometimes taken for granted: freedom of religion and freedom of speech. 

The main character is an evangelist who is framed for a crime  he didn't commit and persecuted for holding firm to his religious  beliefs.

In the movie I play Diana Lucas, a journalist who  asks  tough ques tions. It was  fun doing the movie, but the topic also meant a lot to me.

Every day in the news business, I report on stories just like this. Christians or people of other faiths  are persecuted simply for standing up for something they believe. The intolerance seems crazy, but it's happening a lot more than you might think. The  question "Persecuted" makes you  ask is:  Could the fictional movie  plot ever happen here?

By the way, doing that movie was an example of how important it is to take on new challenges. I really stepped outside  my comfort zone  with "Persecuted." Actors  have  often  told  me they  had  a hard time imagining doing  live TV  and ad-libbing on the fly. Well, I had the  opposite struggle on the  movie  set. It was  very hard to sit still for fifty  takes.

From "Getting Real" by Gretchen Carlson, published on June 16, 2015 by Viking, an imprint of Penguin Publishing Group, a division of Penguin Random House LLC.

Copyright by Gretchen Carlson, 2015.


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

7/08/2015 4:50 am  #2


Re: Feeling Victimmy

Oh Gretchen, you outlaw, bad girl, you!

In the course of peddling her new book Gretchen Carlson penned this regrettable essay. In it, she joins a long line of conservative writers playing into a siege mentality that many Christians feel.

Is it a complete waste of time to read it? Perhaps. The essay is over the top in its whineyness. Carlson is insufferable in her smug self congratulation for staying the course before criticism. But, I think that the essay gives insight into the mindset of a small but significant group of Americans who believe that they are under siege.

What immediately becomes obvious to the critical eye is hyperbole and conflation.
Carlson entitles the essay "I didn't know it was criminal to be Christian."
Then she goes on to offer zero examples of Christianity being criminalized in this country.
Gretchen offers instead the history of her rather odd obsession with the mythical holiday Festivus, and her failed crusade to have a pole banned. Some people disagreed wth her. Some rolled their eyes or even laughed.
Not exactly the Spanish Inquisition now, is it?

Note to Gretchen; it's not persecution when you lose the power to tell other people how to live.
The Constitution does not protect you from criticism, or even derision.

Isn't that what it all comes down to, the loss of power to inject your religious beliefs into politics and the law. The use of religion to tell others what to do?

I have great respect for religion, and am on my own journey of faith. I am Catholic, so I will use the Church as my example. I think that religions are free, and should remain free to define their own structure of beliefs and behaviors that define their Faith. For example, the Catholic Church should NOT be compelled to accept same sex unions as the sacrament of marriage. The Church should NOT be forced to conduct these ceremonies, and should have the power to defrock any priests who do. A religion should not have its tenets determined by the state. 
Now, those outside your faith may find your beliefs odd, or laughable, but thems the breaks. Dialogue between faiths has always had its uncomfortable moments. Whaddaya gonna do?

We are a country of many faiths and no faith. 249 million Americans are nonCatholics. I don't believe that they should define my faith. AND, I also believe that the 69 million Catholics in the US should also refrain from using the law to tell the rest of you how to live.
My Church is free to determine what constitutes acceptable behavior by it's members, but not by others.
For example, we can refuse to recognize same sex unions as a marriage among our Church members, but it is the law of the land. Catholic hospitals and universities employ thousands of non Catholics. They are going to need to offer medical benefits for same sex spouses in accordance with the law. Look on the bright side, it won't include birth control. 

Many conservative Christians also seem to believe that the criticism of their faith is somehow out of bounds, or even constitutes persecution. Not so. I am loath to criticize the faith of another,,,,, so long as he grants the legitimacy of other beliefs. But, when one uses HIS faith to determine the laws that we all must live by, questioning, even ridicule is absolutely fair game.

Now what about my freedom to exercise my religion? Ah yes, the great cake or pizza for the gay wedding question.  I do not believe that the preparation or sale of products is the exercise of religion. I know of NO biblical basis that justifies the refusal to do business with gays or other "sinners". Baking a cake, and selling it to someone to serve at their reception is NOT encouraging or participating in that marriage anymore than it would be to sell gasoline to people who happen to be traveling to a same sex wedding. It's simply commerce within a free society.


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
     Thread Starter
 

7/08/2015 6:20 am  #3


Re: Feeling Victimmy

Well stated, Goose.


Life is an Orthros.
 

7/08/2015 6:54 am  #4


Re: Feeling Victimmy

When you hire prom queens as journalists, you get prom queen jourmalism.


I think you're going to see a lot of different United States of America over the next three, four, or eight years. - President Donald J. Trump
 

7/08/2015 7:15 am  #5


Re: Feeling Victimmy

Yes,  Feigned outrage, hyperbole and drama queen hysterics gets tiresome.

 

7/08/2015 1:13 pm  #6


Re: Feeling Victimmy

Don Henley said it better than I could ever express my assessment of the fox "news" Stepford correspondents:


Don Henley – Dirty Laundry Lyrics

I make my living off the evening news
Just give me something-something I can use
People love it when you lose,
They love dirty laundry

Well, I coulda been an actor, but I wound up here
I just have to look good, I don't have to be clear
Come and whisper in my ear
Give us dirty laundry


Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em all around

We got the bubble-headed-bleach-blond who
Comes on at five
She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam
In her eye
It's interesting when people die
Give us dirty laundry


Can we film the operation?
Is the head dead yet?
You know, the boys in the newsroom got a
Running bet
Get the widow on the set!
We need dirty laundry

You don't really need to find out what's going on
You don't really want to know just how far it's gone
Just leave well enough alone
Eat your dirty laundry

Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down

Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're stiff
Kick 'em all around

Dirty little secrets
Dirty little lies
We got our dirty little fingers in everybody's pie
We love to cut you down to size
We love dirty laundry

We can do "The Innuendo"
We can dance and sing
When it's said and done we haven't told you a thing
We all know that crap is king
Give us dirty laundry!

Songwriters: HENLEY, DON/KORTCHMAR, DANNY

Last edited by Rongone (7/08/2015 1:14 pm)

 

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