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12/29/2017 8:05 am  #1


One nation, divided under Trump, with perilous consequences

Trump is a defiant nationalist, and perhaps he hopes to be a unifier. But as this year ends, the numbers tell us that he has brought a level of division and disarray that should worry even his most passionate supporters.


One nation, divided under Trump, with perilous consequences


Looking for perspective on this past year and the one ahead, I turned to several of the nation’s most experienced former military commanders. One of them put it bluntly: The United States is so divided politically at home that we are becoming vulnerable to our adversaries abroad.

Our country, these retired military leaders fear, is so polarized right now that it might be difficult to mobilize the nation for war, if that were necessary. The nation survives amid division and dysfunction now, when we’re more or less at peace. But if the United States faced a serious threat abroad, say from a nuclear-armed North Korea, these domestic fissures could be paralyzing.

The shrinking space for governance worries me at year-end. The problem begins at the top: President Trump is the most unpopular president in modern times. He’s less admired than his predecessor, Barack Obama. He misreads the nation: The more divisive Trump has become — the more he picks at the nation’s scabs — the less the public likes him, according to polls. Yet Trump persists, playing to his base, with harmful consequences for the country.


Trump brags about how well the stock market is doing. Meanwhile, he attacks the FBI, the NFL and other groups he thinks it will be advantageous to impugn. The nation’s wounds get redder and rawer. But the polls suggest that the public overall isn’t buying it. Trump’s numbers remain low, and Republicans keep losing key races, as in Virginia and Alabama.

Trump took office with a narrow margin of public approval, but it’s been going the other way since February, when disapproval of his performance rose above 50 percent. It has stayed there, hovering at roughly the current 56 percent disapproval rate since the summer, according to a composite of polls gathered by the website FiveThirtyEight. Just under 38 percent of the country approves of the president.

An ominous set of snapshots of the United States came in a study released Tuesday by the Pew Research Center. Pew found that partisan divisions are now much more important than religious or educational ones in driving political views. The gap between Republicans and Democrats on key issues has increased from 15 percentage points in 1994 to 36 points now.


Sharp partisan divisions extend even to issues where factual evidence should be crucial. Pew found that only 27 percent of Republicans who said they had “high” scientific knowledge believed that climate change was causing either rising sea levels or harm to wildlife, compared with 75 percent (rising sea levels) and 73 percent (harm to wildlife) of high-knowledge Democrats.

What worries me most is that, in Trump’s America, people seem increasingly doubtful that these divisions can be healed. A CBS News poll taken in June found that 55 percent of the country thought “people of different political views can come together.” By October, only 47 percent were optimistic, and 51 percent doubted that reconciliation was possible.

How does Trump’s divided America look to foreign eyes? A Pew study in the spring found that global confidence in the U.S. president had fallen from 64 percent at the end of Obama’s tenure to 22 percent at the start of Trump’s. Those expressing “no confidence” surged from 23 percent to 74 percent.


Foreign nations have bet on our country’s internal divisions before, but they’ve mostly been wrong. Abraham Lincoln’s persistence preserved the Union, even as some European nations thought the United States would splinter. Franklin Roosevelt’s fireside chats helped keep America together during the 1930s when some left-wing and right-wing agitators were urging violence, and fascism and communism abroad seemed the wave of the future.

This country’s vulnerability to manipulation was vividly described in a 1945 report by Britain’s Secret Intelligence Service, which reviewed that nation’s covert-action campaign starting in 1940 to push the United States into war. I reported on this history of “British Security Coordination,” or BSC, as it was known, nearly 30 years ago. The spymasters’ cynical assessment has haunted me ever since:

“In planning its campaign, it was necessary for BSC to remember . . . the simple truth that the United States, a sovereign entity of comparatively recent birth, is inhabited by people of many conflicting races, interests and creeds. These people, though fully conscious of their wealth and power in the aggregate, are still unsure of themselves individually, still basically on the defensive and still striving, as yet unavailingly but very defiantly, after national unity.”

Trump is a defiant nationalist, and perhaps he hopes to be a unifier. But as this year ends, the numbers tell us that he has brought a level of division and disarray that should worry even his most passionate supporters.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-divisiveness-puts-america-at-risk/2017/12/28/6cd5b738-ec11-11e7-9f92-10a2203f6c8d_story.html?utm_term=.a6460b19f0d6


“While the framers of the Constitution foresaw the possibility of a tyrannical president, they never let their imaginations be darkened by the possibility of a compliant Congress.”
 

12/29/2017 9:47 am  #2


Re: One nation, divided under Trump, with perilous consequences

I found it interesting that the author mentioned Franklin Roosevelt's Fireside Chats.
If you think of it, these radio addresses were the Twitter of the 1930s. They were an opportunity for FDR to bypass the filter of the press and to communicate directly with the American people.
FDR communicated his vision for the nation, and he united America with a tone that conveyed self-assurance and optimism during a difficult time.

Imagine what America might be like if FDR used his platform to attack his own FBI and Justice department.
If he continued to attack an opponent that he defeated in an election over a year ago.
If he had used the platform to mock celebrities and athletes. 
If he had used Stalinistic terms to condemn a free press.
If he had shamelessly, and dishonestly self promoted, and slandered.

What if FDR had used his platform simply to pick at the nation's scabs, for his own very short term benefit?

What a disgrace Mr Trump is. Completely unfit for the office he holds.
 

Last edited by Goose (12/29/2017 9:49 am)


“While the framers of the Constitution foresaw the possibility of a tyrannical president, they never let their imaginations be darkened by the possibility of a compliant Congress.”
     Thread Starter
 

12/29/2017 11:51 am  #3


Re: One nation, divided under Trump, with perilous consequences

I freely admit President Trump is going out of his way to aggrivate the problem but he isn't the problem.

He's just a symptom.

We began to hate each other so long ago we no longer remember why and we no longer care.
 


If you make yourself miserable trying to make others happy that means everyone is miserable.

-Me again

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12/29/2017 12:04 pm  #4


Re: One nation, divided under Trump, with perilous consequences

Conspiracy Theory wrote:

I freely admit President Trump is going out of his way to aggrivate the problem but he isn't the problem.

He's just a symptom.

We began to hate each other so long ago we no longer remember why and we no longer care.
 

I agree that Trump is not the cause of the problem.
Trump is the result of the problem.
The big question is that a movement that was defined by its belief in limited government, individual liberty, free markets, traditional values, and civility found itself embracing bigotry, political intransigence, demagoguery, and outright falsehood. How did that come about?

America has been on this path for some time. This past election will hurt the Republic for a generation.

Last edited by Goose (12/29/2017 12:04 pm)


“While the framers of the Constitution foresaw the possibility of a tyrannical president, they never let their imaginations be darkened by the possibility of a compliant Congress.”
     Thread Starter
 

12/29/2017 2:48 pm  #5


Re: One nation, divided under Trump, with perilous consequences

The problem began to emerge with the resignation in disgrace of Richard Milhous Nixon and his immediate pardon by Gerald Ford, the only person to serve as POTUS who had never been elected to that office OR to the office of Vice President.

The problem was exacerbated by Bush v. Gore, when we were all singing "all I want for Christmas is a Pres-i-dent".

The GOP has neither forgiven nor forgotten the Watergate debacle.  

The Democrats have neither forgiven nor forgotten Bush v. Gore.

As Shakespeare wrote, "A plague on both your houses."


Life is an Orthros.
 

12/30/2017 11:43 am  #6


Re: One nation, divided under Trump, with perilous consequences

The million dollar question:
Where do we go from here?


“While the framers of the Constitution foresaw the possibility of a tyrannical president, they never let their imaginations be darkened by the possibility of a compliant Congress.”
     Thread Starter
 

12/30/2017 3:39 pm  #7


Re: One nation, divided under Trump, with perilous consequences

Trump just flames the fire of hatred. 


"Do not confuse motion and progress, A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress"
 
 

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