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6/30/2015 8:33 am  #1


Greece the Skids

Yes, the market looks like it is in for a further skid today as Greece will likely formely default on its IMF loan today. The overall impact of US dealing with Geece is rather small, but the dealings with the EU itself are rather significant. The real danger is how much the EU itslef will be impacted businesswise from the default. 

Many have predicted that the US Stock Market was in for a correction anwyay and some of this is perhaps just part of the same correction. As in many downturns, it is just a waiting game till all of the market has recovered. There is always a lot of nervous reaction as currently many peoples retirement funds are directly or indirectly invested in the market and a downturn is looked at as a real loss vs just a paper loss till you are forced to sell. 


 


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6/30/2015 9:34 am  #2


Re: Greece the Skids

Here is a related article about defaults right here in the USA which could have much more of a real effect on US stocks and bonds. 

The next Greece may be in the U.S

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/these-lurking-debts-may-turn-us-cities-states-into-greece-2015-06-30


 

Last edited by tennyson (6/30/2015 9:35 am)


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7/01/2015 5:38 am  #3


Re: Greece the Skids

The courts need to be more supportive of bond investors or there won't be a municipal bond market any more.
I don't know about others, but when I loan money to a municipality, I expect to get paid back.


We live in a time in which decent and otherwise sensible people are surrendering too easily to the hectoring of morons or extremists. 
 

7/05/2015 9:10 pm  #4


Re: Greece the Skids

With the Greek "NO" vote on the referendum, the US Markets will probably be down on Monday, but don't panic. It will not be a long term thing. 

 


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7/06/2015 7:16 am  #5


Re: Greece the Skids

BTW, to compound things in the financial arena, the China stock market is having its own meltdown which is not related to the Greece predicament. 

 


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7/08/2015 10:49 am  #6


Re: Greece the Skids

tennyson wrote:

BTW, to compound things in the financial arena, the China stock market is having its own meltdown which is not related to the Greece predicament. 

 

Now, the China potential collapse IS something we need to worry about. Greece not so much. 

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-stocks-set-for-day-in-the-red-ahead-of-fomc-minutes-alcoa-earnings-2015-07-08

 


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